Chris Craft Commander Forum, Inc.                         ABOVE, from left to right (previous photos of the day, the week in review !): PHOTO - 1. Star Wars electronics aboard a classic Commander, carefully hidden out of sight ! PHOTO - 2. Heavy Paragon transmissions are used on most classic Commanders. Here are parts catalogs and references! PHOTO - 3. Warren Pateman stripped this trashed Commander down to the bare glass inside and out, and rebuilt EVERYTHING. It still looks like a well kept 38 Commander! PHOTO - 4. THE nicest 31' Sports Express we've seen, and it's all original too! PHOTO - 5. For more photos of Bill's restoration of a beautiful 30 Sportsman, check out this link. PHOTO - 6. For more photos and brochure scans, of the 27 foot Commanders, check out this link. Some of the special images from previous PHOTOS OF THE DAY....(in case you missed them!) A selection of past photos of the day can be found by clicking this link!

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It's not a Chris Craft.......................It's a lifestyle!...........................!!
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At some point in time people who are restoring older boats are going to run into a situation where their old carb is corroded tight like one of mine was. The old carb was so corroded I decided I just didn’t want to take the chance of getting into a stall out on the water or experience poor running conditions that would be associated with some sort of internal condition I could not see or understand. Therefore I decided to go with a new Edelbrock 1409 marine 600 and simply remove that potential aggravation out of my boating adventure. The swap was pretty straight forward but it was not without a little diagnostics to get things to work properly. On my particular runabout installation the motor angle was steeper than on a cruiser and I decided to use a wedge, and from that moment on the boat ran perfectly. For more on how to do this installation and to see the issues I ran into, check out the following thread.
Edelbrock marine carbs are a bolt on replacement for many Chris Craft motors.


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There are some really special threads here: of particular note, be sure to see Oliver & Sonja Oelgart's great thread about how they found a 41' Chris Craft in a German warehouse with only 12 hours on the hour meter! ~ Also be sure to see their web site for some absolutely STUNNING photography and photos of them touring the South of Spain after they restored this great boat. ~.~ Don't miss the tribute to Warren Pateman, a very special Commander owner from Australia, and the article he wrote about his total restoration and refitting of BAMBI, a 38' Commander. A very big THANK YOU to Motor Boating Magazine, especially senior editor, John Clemans, and executive editor, Jeanne Craig; with whom your forum moderator worked on the feature 38' Chris Craft Commander article, appearing in the June, 2006 issue, of Motor Boating Magazine! ~*~ Here is another link showing John in action, the day some of the photos were taken for the article! John Clemans in action, Cumberland River, April 1, 2006! 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This non-commercial site exists to share information with people like you! Happy hunting! Due to the strong international readership we are posting International Time of Day as a reference tool. You can also find United States National Animated Radar Loop, ...... the Present Jet Stream Map, ...... and the National Temperature Map right here for your convenient boating weather reference. Not logged in | Login | Create Account Search (try using quotes)    Chat!    Post now Anybody??? View thread - anonymous on Dec 29, 2008   Shaft Bearing size View thread - Mark Weller on Dec 29, 2008 This might be of some help to you - Paul on Dec 29, 2008 Ahoy Commodore - Chris Wade on Dec 29, 2008   The responsibility (and restraint) needed for classic Commander restoration. View thread - Paul on Dec 26, 2008 SF Interior - Reece on Dec 26, 2008 Hand rubbed teak? - Paul on Dec 26, 2008 Here is a 1971 Sports Cruiser (35) - Paul on Dec 26, 2008 Interior Wood - Mike Schrage on Dec 27, 2008 Ha! - Paul on Dec 27, 2008 How did you strip the old paint? - Corey on Dec 28, 2008 Paint Removal - Mike S on Dec 28, 2008 Here is a 1970 Sports Cruiser (35) - Paul on Dec 27, 2008 I'm thinking the same thing - Corey on Dec 27, 2008 Wood // Bathroom / Closet - Reece on Dec 28, 2008 Re: The responsibility (and restraint) needed for classic Commander restoration. - E.Sanchez on Dec 26, 2008 Warren Pateman's interior rebuild - Paul on Dec 26, 2008 Thanks - E.Sanchez on Dec 26, 2008 Agree - Bill on Dec 27, 2008 Well said Bill.... - Jerry on Dec 27, 2008 That's going to be a fun project for you - Paul on Dec 27, 2008 Dolphins and Galaxies.... - Jerry on Dec 27, 2008 Uhhh, Dolphins ? - Paul on Dec 28, 2008 Well...... - Jerry on Dec 28, 2008 Adornment, surface entertainment, - Paul on Dec 28, 2008 I am losing it..... - Jerry on Dec 28, 2008 Hang on Brother....... - Chris Wade on Dec 29, 2008   Carb rebuild time ! View thread - Paul on Apr 18, 2008 REbuilt Carb - Mark Weller on Apr 18, 2008 Mark, you're making me look bad - Paul on Apr 19, 2008 Carb - Mark Weller on Apr 20, 2008 My ongoing Carter AFB carb adventure ( Photos ) - Paul on Apr 20, 2008 More photos - Paul on Apr 20, 2008 More photos - Paul on Apr 20, 2008 Don't forget the check valve - George on Apr 21, 2008 Looked, but didn't see "check valve" on the list of parts - Paul on Apr 21, 2008 It's not on the list - George on Apr 21, 2008 Good tip George, I'll do so. - Paul on Apr 21, 2008 Took apart the thermo choke assembly too - Paul on Apr 21, 2008 Photo ( Internal choke piston assy ) - Paul on Apr 22, 2008 Two options on the choke ( rebuilt OEM and electric conversion ) - Tom Slayton on Apr 29, 2008 Two styles of accelerator pumps - Paul on Apr 21, 2008 Carb tip - Tim on Apr 21, 2008 Tip accepted - Paul on Apr 22, 2008 Photos ( different types of accelerator pumps ) - Paul on Apr 22, 2008 Which one? - Tom Slayton on Apr 27, 2008 Re: Which one? - Paul on Oct 17, 2008 Carter carb identification - Tom Slayton on Apr 21, 2008 More vintage Carter history and identification - Tom Slayton on Apr 21, 2008 Ohh yeah, what a difference !!! - Paul on Apr 26, 2008 They work when they're dirty......... - Tom Slayton on Apr 27, 2008 Ever see soot blowing out the tailpipe when you start up? - Paul on Oct 17, 2008 Rebuild or replace ?? - Paul on Dec 29, 2008   Source for 390/427 Fuel Pump View thread - Craig on Oct 31, 2006 Try Dan Cook - Tom Slayton on Oct 31, 2006 Try the premiere boat restorers in Michigan - Mark Weller on Oct 31, 2006 Re: Try the premiere boat restorers in Michigan - Craig on Nov 1, 2006 Michigan is full of premiere boat restorers - Tom Slayton on Nov 1, 2006 carter marine fuel pump M6905 new - Dean Beliveau (Executive Charters) on Jan 19, 2007 carter m6905 - steve on Jan 20, 2007 Watch the psi rating - Tom Slayton on Jan 20, 2007 m6905's - Scott Keefer on Jan 20, 2007 Not a marine pump - Paul on Jan 21, 2007 Not a marine pump - Paul on Jan 21, 2007 marine modification - Scott on Jan 21, 2007 Marine pump failure - Paul on Jan 21, 2007 The correct fuel pump is... - Dean Beliveau on Feb 10, 2007 Fuel pump replacement - 42' Commander - John Davis on May 14, 2007 It is a tough job under the best of circumstances - Paul on May 14, 2007 Thanks for the encouragement! - John Davis on May 15, 2007 Thanks for the good words - Paul on May 15, 2007 Photos of 427 fuel pump replacement - Paul on Oct 2, 2008 AW come on Paul - Mark Weller on Oct 2, 2008 Uhhh okay ! - Paul on Oct 3, 2008 Re: Photos of 427 fuel pump replacement - Gary on Oct 3, 2008 How do they work? - George on Dec 29, 2008   Sparkplug wires? View thread - David Kwartler on Dec 28, 2008 427 distributor wiring diagram and distributor setting instructions ( scans ) - Paul on Dec 29, 2008   Decking or flooring, as the case may be.... View thread - Jerry on Dec 28, 2008   1964 Galaxie ( land yacht ) View thread - James Brunette on Dec 28, 2008 Right on ! - Paul on Dec 28, 2008   454 Chevy marine power or "BBC" View thread - Chris Wade on Dec 27, 2008 We need info ! - Paul on Dec 27, 2008 Here is where to go..... - Jerry on Dec 27, 2008 BBC ID numbers - Chris Wade on Dec 28, 2008   Chris Craft exhaust manifolds View thread - E.Sanchez on Dec 27, 2008 Increased performance - Paul on Dec 27, 2008 Re: Increased performance - E.Sanchez on Dec 27, 2008 Re: Increased performance - Paul on Dec 27, 2008   No offense to purists ( W.W.D.D.) View thread - Chris Wade on Dec 24, 2008 Re: No offense to purists ( W.W.D.D.) - E.Sanchez on Dec 24, 2008 No Bridge - Glenn on Dec 24, 2008 SF No Bridge - Reece on Dec 26, 2008 Or THis Color - Reece on Dec 26, 2008 Reece my man, not in O H I O - Chris Wade on Dec 26, 2008 Introducing the 38' Chris Craft Commander Wade Sportsman - Paul on Dec 26, 2008 I'll take one! - John Kloka on Dec 26, 2008 Could I get that with Trip 427's? - Chris Wade on Dec 26, 2008 Sure, this model was available with three 427 motors.... - Paul on Dec 27, 2008 Here is the foredeck extended model ( and a photo at speed ) - Paul on Dec 27, 2008 Mathews Martinique - Kevin on Dec 27, 2008 Here you go ( Photos of the Matthews Martinique ) one for sale in Sandusky, Ohio ! - Paul on Dec 27, 2008   Chris Craft Power View thread - Paul on Feb 22, 2007 Model 225 BVC ( 150-hp V6 outdrive ) - Paul on Feb 22, 2007 307 QLV - Paul on Feb 22, 2007 307-Q - Paul on Feb 22, 2007 350-Q 235-hp - Paul on Feb 22, 2007 327Q and 350Q Owners Manual ( Complete ) - Paul on Jun 5, 2007 Re: 327Q and 350Q Parts Manual ( Complete ) - Paul on Jun 5, 2007 350-QA 235-hp V-drive - Paul on Feb 22, 2007 427 300-hp (big dogs) - Paul on Feb 22, 2007 Fantastic site!!! - Alex on Dec 27, 2008 Max hours on a 427 - Paul on Dec 27, 2008 427 ( dimension diagrams ) - Paul on Feb 22, 2007 427-A ( 300-hp V-drive) - Paul on Feb 22, 2007 Older series 283F and 327F comparisons - Paul on Feb 24, 2007 From my SBC book by David Vizard.... - Tom Slayton on Feb 24, 2007 Heartbeat of America - EH on Feb 24, 2007 When did CC start using the GM gas big blocks ? - James Brunette on Mar 4, 2007 Somewhere around 1971 or 1972, not sure - Tom Slayton on Mar 5, 2007 I'd say 1972, Bill - Paul on Mar 5, 2007 1973 with 427's - greg grow on Mar 5, 2007 Probably one of the last ! - Paul on Mar 5, 2007 1973 here - Trey on Apr 11, 2007 1973 looks like the last year of the CC 427 ! - Paul on Apr 11, 2007 My 1974 Chris Craft has 427s !! - Jim on Sep 11, 2008 Jim, it now looks like 1974 was the last of the 427 breed ! - Paul on Sep 11, 2008 Re: My 1974 Chris Craft has 427s !! - Dan on Sep 11, 2008 427's here too :-) - Anonymous on Apr 11, 2007 283 FLV (photo documentation) - Paul on Jul 18, 2007 327F power and torque numbers, and fuel consumption - Paul on Feb 18, 2008 owner - s.spero on Mar 5, 2007 The 307 is a GM small block motor - Paul on Mar 5, 2007 431 Lincoln ( SCAN ) - Paul on Apr 11, 2007 534 cubic inch Ford Industrial SEAMASTER power option - Paul on May 4, 2007 Original 431 Lincoln promo brochure (scan) - Paul on Jul 18, 2007 There are two 431s on eBay at this time.... - KeythL on Sep 18, 2008 The Ford Y - block casting technique - Paul on May 4, 2007 Y-block ( photo ) - Paul on May 4, 2007 Hercules flathead power, from the mid 1930's into the 1960's - Paul on Dec 28, 2007   Wanted: Photos of Chris Craft 430 and 431 MEL Lincoln marine engines View thread - P on Jul 15, 2005 Here is where some MEL 430s are right now (what should be done?) - P on Jul 16, 2005 Desperate for 430 gaskets! - mttopd on Jul 18, 2005 Good luck to you with your big Lincolns, I have a set too, - David Mehl on Jul 19, 2005 Some specs for the big Lincoln - David Mehl on Jul 19, 2005 This runabout came with a 431 Lincoln as standard equipment - Dave Mehl on Jul 22, 2005 Here you go Dave, a MEL powered Continental for $29,000 - P on Jul 23, 2005 431 lincolns - Jim on Nov 11, 2007 The Big Lincolns...... - Paul on Nov 12, 2007 More on the Lincolns ( rebuild photos ) - Paul on Nov 12, 2007 Highest recorded engine hours??? - Alex on Dec 27, 2008 Todd's had 2700 hours when he took off on a 700 mile cruise - Paul on Dec 27, 2008 Those were 427s btw - Paul on Dec 27, 2008   Paragon Hydraulic Transmissions, P 200, P 300, P 400 ( Operator Manual Scans ) View thread - Paul on Jun 15, 2007 Re: Paragon Hydraulic Transmissions, P 200, P 300, P 400 ......... PART - II - Paul on Jun 15, 2007 Many different Paragon models were used on the 427 ( see dimensions in scan ) - Paul on Sep 10, 2007 Model years for HJ-7 and P-44 Paragon - Paul on Mar 26, 2008 Paragon transmission code - Paul on Mar 26, 2008 Paragon question. - Jerry on Mar 26, 2008 Paragon rebuilding (Parts list from Alto Products Corp) - Paul on Mar 27, 2008 common ailments? - Scott on Mar 30, 2008 Creeping in neutral is not considered all that bad a problem - Howard on Mar 30, 2008 Re: Creeping in neutral is not considered all that bad a problem - Don on Mar 30, 2008 This may work..... - Jerry on Mar 30, 2008 HJ-7 vs P-44 OAL - Paul A. Mathias on Mar 28, 2008 You are absolutely right - Paul on Mar 28, 2008 Confused? - Chris Wade on Dec 26, 2008   Dinner cruise on the Cumberland aboard a 38' Express View thread - Paul on Jun 5, 2008 WOW - Steve on Jun 5, 2008 That's the A-Team - Paul on Jun 5, 2008 Fun - Tom Slayton on Jun 5, 2008 What a 38 Express does best, why we bought ours !! 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