A NOTORIOUS gangster was knifed to death days before a documentary is to be screened in which he boasts of being behind 27 killings - and of being untouchable.
Police have stepped up patrols after Desmond "Dessie" Noonan was stabbed and his body was dumped in Merseybank Avenue, Chorlton, early on Saturday morning.
The 6ft, 20-stone father-of-two operated as a fixer for his brother, Dominic, the Urdu-speaking head of the notorious Noonan crime family based in Cheetham Hill, Manchester.
The pair feature in Gangster, journalist Donal MacIntyre's documentary on Britain's mob scene and Manchester's gangland culture due to be broadcast on Channel 5 tomorrow at 11pm.
In it, Desmond Noonan, 46, suggests the Noonans are untouchables, saying: "We have a lot of strong loyal people around us. We will always have that. If they think they can take one of us out, they are silly people. Very silly people."
He also says: "I've got a bigger army than the police. We have more guns than the police."
Noonan, a father of two, was taken by ambulance late on Friday night to Manchester Royal Infirmary where his death was confirmed.
Dominic Noonan told the M.E.N. his brother had been drinking in The Parkside pub in Wythenshawe on Friday night. He said Desmond left at 11.30pm and it is not known whether he left the pub alone or how he got to Chorlton.
Dominic said: "He phoned his wife, Sandra, to say that he had been stabbed and he asked her to come and get him. Sandra came down and he was lying on the floor unconscious at the time. She phoned the ambulance and then phoned me.
"Dessie was drunk at the time so we believe that someone took advantage of him. It was certainly not a robbery. He was a good lad. He helped a lot of people out. Everyone always turned to the Noonans to solve their problems. His death could be connected to a problem that he was involved in.
"Sandra is shocked. If people do not want to talk to the police then they can talk to us. He was a very funny guy and everyone is terribly upset. He was very well known and very well liked."
Desmond Noonan and the Noonan family first rose to notoriety in the Manchester gang scene after the murder of "White Tony" Johnson, the leader of the Cheetham Hill Gang, who was gunned down in 1991. Desmond was charged but acquitted after a re-trial.
In 1995, Desmond was described in court as a "psycho" for a violent attack on twin brothers and was jailed for 33 months.
In the programme, Desmond Noonan, who had a string of convictions including intimidating witnesses, smiles when asked about the collapse of court trials when key witnesses pull out and says: "They don't come to court . . .they haven't got the bus fare. Some are deranged . . . because they are in the back of a boot tied up and they don't know what day it is. That's a joke by the way."
He boasts: "I've got a bigger army than the police. We have more guns than the police, silly b*******."
While being interviewed in a pub, Noonan admits police believe he was behind 25 murders. Asked if he was indeed responsible for the killings, he smiles, covers his mouth and says "no".
His brother Dominic then says it was actually 24 before Desmond Noonan holds up seven fingers and thumbs, indicating 27.
Donal MacIntyre denied suggestions that his film glamorised the Noonans and insisted his work was an accurate portrayal of the brothers in their own surroundings.
"There's good and bad in everyone and the Noonans are the product of great poverty. Any sense that they are an alien species from an alien planet would be wrong. However, Dessie was clearly a very dangerous man but also a very complex one," said Mr MacIntyre.
One man has been arrested in connection with Desmond Noonan's death.
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DIE ON THE WALL
Gangland boss Noonan knifed to death days before his TV documentary
Dessie Noonan
ONE of Britain's top gangland leaders has been murdered on the eve of his own fly-on-the-wall TV programme.
Desmond Noonan - who boasts that the police blame him for 25 murders - died early yesterday after being stabbed in a street.
ONE of Britain's top gangland leaders has been murdered on the eve of his own fly-on-the-wall TV programme.
Desmond Noonan - who boasts that the police blame him for 25 murders - died early yesterday after being stabbed in a street.
The Noonans are Manchester's most notorious crime family and police now fear a gangland feud will erupt in the city.
Noonan, 46, died on his way to hospital after being attacked in the city suburb of Chorlton, just before midnight on Friday night.
He and his brother Dominic, 39, appear in the first of Donal MacIntyre's new series of fly-on-the-wall documentaries which start on Tuesday.
In the film, entitled The Trials of Mr Lattlay Fottfoy, Desmond Noonan is seen bragging about gangland killings while sipping a bottle of beer in a pub.
He tells MacIntyre: "They (the police) reckon I am behind most of the murders in Manchester."
Then he adds: "I've got a bigger army than the police. We've got more guns than the police. Silly bastards.
"I am down for 25 murders. What a load of bollocks."
He tells the film-maker when he first meets him: "Yeah, my friends told me to whack you."
The gangster then chillingly brags of nobbling witnesses and says on camera: "The police pressurise key witnesses to tell lies about us. In the end they see sense and don't come to court.
"Some can't go to court because they haven't got the bus fare.
"Some are deranged and delusioned because they are in the back of a trunk tied up!"
He adds: "That's a joke, by the way."
MacIntyre obviously doesn't believe it is, especially when Noonan issues a warning to rival gangsters and police.
He says: "No one wants to hurt us at the end of the day. And if they did, by God there would be some fireworks."
At one point Noonan covers his face and smirks when talking about gangland killings and whether he is responsible or not.
When MacIntyre bluntly asks: "And are you?" Noonan covers his face to stop a smile before answering: "No".
His brother Dominic adds: "He's a good Catholic."
And Desmond says: "I am a Catholic. I don't believe in a life for a life. I don't believe in taking life."
Then, in a sick mock apology, the convicted armed robber laughs and adds: "I'm sorry. I want to say sorry to everyone."
Most of Tuesday's documentary is devoted to Desmond's gangster brother Dominic who calls himself Fottfoy - meaning "f*** off those that f*** off you" .
The two men come from a family of 16 with every one of the 14 children - boys and girls - christened with a name beginning with the letter D after the city of Dublin.
The Noonans have been feared in Manchester for more than 20 years.
Yesterday the area where Desmond was killed was flooded with police officers. A spokesman for Greater Manchester Police refused to confirm the dead man's name, but he said: "Detectives in Chorlton are appealing for information after a 46-year-old man was stabbed and his body found outside an address in Mersey Bank Avenue.
"Paramedics attended and treated him for injuries and took him to Manchester Royal Hospital where he was pronounced dead.
"We would like anyone who saw anything suspicious to come forward, and we ask residents to look out for clothing that might have been disposed of or any bladed instrument in their gardens."
NOONAN'S BOASTS
The police blame me for 25 murders But I've got a bigger army than them ..
..And I've got more guns..silly b*******
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THE brother of stabbed gang leader Dessy Noonan led a 16-piece pipe band through the streets of Manchester at his funeral today as black-plummed horses pulled the carriage carrying the coffin.
Hundreds of people lined the road outside St Aidan's Catholic church in Northern Moor, as the procession for Dessy, 45, arrived.
Desmond Noonan's brother, Domenyk walked on foot flanked by four men from D J Noonan Security wearing black jackets with the words, ``We serve to protect,'' written on the back.
Two schools were closed today because of the funeral.
Angry parents only found out about the decision last night - after they had shut.
Staff at Chorlton High and Thomas Aquinas High sent a letter home with nearly 1,800 pupils telling their families the schools would be closed. They said the decision was taken on the advice of the police, although that was denied by GMP.
Both schools are in Nell Lane near Southern Cemetery, where the funeral cortege was going.
At the church, behind the security men, the pipe band and drummers were followed by the horse-drawn carriage topped with white flowers bearing the coffin. Also in the procession were 12 black Daimlers filled with floral tributes in red and white. Included among them were wreaths saying, ``Uncle'', ``Our Kid'' and ``Dez''.
The funeral comes just over a month after Noonan was stabbed to death. He was found collapsed in the street outside a house on the Merseybank Estate in Chorlton.
A man has been charged with his murder.
Outside the church today youngsters handed out copies of the order of service to mourners who had come to pay their last respects. A note was also passed around which said: ``The Noonan family would like to take this opportunity to thank everyone for attending Dessy's funeral.
"This is a very sad time for family and friends. We wish to give Dessy a really good send off which is what he deserved.
"We have given permission for Channel 5 to film and take photographs of the procession. Anyone who knows Dessy knows that he would love all this attention.''
The statement added: ``Everyone is welcome to the Southern Public House, Nell Lane, after the funeral. The landlord has kindly offered all profits sold on bottles to go towards the cost of the funeral.''
Four days after Desmond's death a documentary about the family by undercover reporter Donal McIntyre was screened.
The Noonan family became notorious in the Manchester gang scene after the murder of ``White Tony'' Johnson, the leader of the Cheetham Hill gang, who was gunned down in 1991. Desmond was charged but acquitted after a retrial.
Following the requiem Mass the funeral procession travelled to Southern Cemetery for the internment.
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HUNDREDS of mourners, many from Manchester’s gangland underworld, paid their last respects to the notorious crime enforcer Desmond “Dessie” Noonan yesterday.
His brother Dominic, an even more feared gangland figure, led the funeral procession the 500 yards from the family home on a council estate in south Manchester for the Requiem Mass at St Aidan’s RC Church.
Traffic came to a standstill as a traditional kilted pipe band led the way. Four black plumed horses drew the carriage carrying Noonan’s bulky body while a cortege of 12 black Daimlers each weighed down with suitably sentimental floral tributes, followed sedately in its wake.
The city has not seen anything like it. . . at least, not since the last Noonan died. More than 15,000 mourners joined the procession in August 2003, and parts of the city were cut off, when Damian Noonan, a familiar 22-stone figure, was interred after a holiday motorbike accident.
Dominic said: “Anyone who knows Dessie knows that he would love all this attention.”
If there was a passing similarity between the scene in the Southern Cemetery yesterday and the funerals of the Krays in London’s East End, it is no surprise. As with Reggie and Ronnie, the Noonan brothers, who come from a large and well-known Irish family, represent underworld royalty.
The Noonan brothers were in the thick of the gang wars that kicked off the “Gunchester” era in the 1980s and more often than not one or the other left their metaphorical dabs at the scene of armed robberies, prison riots and gangland murders.
Their reputation for violence and sheer longevity in a dangerous world placed them in a pre-eminent position and made it possible for them to broker deals between the warring, and often much younger, factions.
Over the years people in Moston, a poor working-class district whose residents complain of feeling abandoned by the authorities, including the police, have come to look to Dominic, Dessie and their gang for their own special kind of street justice.
In the recent fly-on-the-wall documentary MacIntyre’s Underworld on Five, Donal MacIntyre explained that when somebody was burgled, people would turn to Dominic Noonan to sort it out.
Dessie Noonan, 46, was stabbed to death close to his home in Chorlton last month as he and his brother were putting the final touches to their own legend as “invincible” crime bosses.
His name had been linked to dozens of armed robberies and several murders.
THE CLAN
The Noonan brothers are among 14 siblings all with names starting with the letter D after Dublin, their original home city
Dessie Noonan achieved notoriety when he and three others, including his brother Derek, walked free from Manchester Crown Court in February 1993 after a jury was unable to decide who murdered Tony “White” Johnson, an armed robber
Dominic Noonan, now head of the clan, has spent 22 of his 40 years behind bars.
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A GANGSTER branded "a very dangerous man" by a judge was jailed for 91/2 years for having a gun and ammunition in his car.
Domenyk Noonan, who appeared in court under the surname Lattlay-Fottfoy, is a member of a notorious Manchester gangland family.
When stopped by police near Darlington in May, he was found to have a handgun and five .357 Magnum bullets in his Jaguar car.
The jury at Teesside Crown Court convicted him of three firearms offences after just over an hour's deliberation.
Lattlay-Fottfoy, 41, of Bacup Street, Moston, Manchester, who ran a security business, is the brother of murdered Manchester hardman Desmond Noonan, who was head of the criminal family until he was stabbed to death , earlier this year. Both brothers had appeared in a controversial TV documentary about the Manchester criminal underworld in which Desmond, a father-of-two, had hinted he was responsible for 27 murders.
Armed police had been guarding the courtroom and its exits all week.
Judge Michael Taylor told Lattlay-Fottfoy : "You are by occupation a professional criminal. You have many convictions for offences of dishonesty and more disturbingly convictions for violence and firearms.
"You are a very dangerous man who is clearly a risk to the public."
Lattlay-Fottfoy claimed he had been set up by a Darlington man, whom he blamed for planting the gun and ammunition in his car.
Aaron Berry, 20, of Taymouth Avenue, and Adam Walsh, 18, of Bankwell Walk, both Manchester, had previously admitted firearms offences.
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Domenyk Noonan is appealing against a jail sentence for having a gun in his car, claiming he was "set up" by the police.
He has also revealed he is spending his time in prison writing a book about the notorious Noonan family.
"There is a good story to be told," he said.
He is set to join a number of gangland figures who have gone on to have literary careers like "Mad" Frankie Fraser.
Stabbed
In December, Noonan, who has changed his surname to Lattlay-Fottfoy, was jailed for nine-and-a-half years after he was found to have a handgun and five bullets in his car when he was stopped in Darlington.
He claims a man had planted the gun and ammunition in his car.
He is appealing after a jury at Teesside Crown Court convicted him of three firearms offences.
Noonan, 41, of Moston, is the brother of murdered Manchester hardman Desmond Noonan, who was stabbed to death last year.
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IF U DO FIND OUT HOW 2 CONTACT DOMINIC LET ME NO PLEASE, COS I HUNG WITH HIM AND HIS FAMILY ABOUT 27 YRS AGO, AND HAD TO LEAVE MANCHESTER TO GO LIVE IN LIVERPOOL, NEVER FORGOT THEM AND OVER THE YRS HAVE WONDERED HOW THEY ARE AND WHAT THERE DOING. I LIVED ON ALEXSANDER ROAD AND WENT TO THE LOCAL SCHOOL WITH HIS SISTER, DONT WANT TO SAY HER NAME, BUT SHE IS AROUND 39YR OLD, AND WE WERE GOOD FRIENDS... PLEASE HELP................
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WOULD BE NICE TO HERE FROM DOM, I WASN'T ALOAD TO KNOCK ABOUT WITH HIM LOL, BUT WE HAD A CALL SO I WOULD NO IT WAS HIM,ASK HIM DOES HE REMEMBER IT WAS THE TARSAN! CALL LOL. NEVER WANTED TO LEAVE MANCHESTER I LOVED IT. I WENT TO SCHOOL WITH DI AND WE WERE GOOD FRIENDS, BUT WAS A TOM BOY MYSELF SO LIKED KNOCKING ABOUT WITH THE LADS. HE MUST REMEMBER ME WE WERE CAN SAY MORE BUT NOT ON HERE.........
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anne marie you wont know me im j (not my real name for confidential reasons) im di noonans son im 14 my mum has spoke about you alot growing up she remembers you being best friends and beverly beaumont if you can remeber, my mum has just turned 40 on 11 nov its a shame i didnt read your message earlier it would be nice for you and my mum to keep in touch as you go way back, if you could respond to this message i would be grateful x x
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wow wot a lovely surprise thanks 4 replying to my msg, i did write u one bk yesterday but not sure if u got it? i would love to here from yr mum di often think about her and the family, i was only young wen i left manchester to go live in liverpool which i hated but thats were my family were. i now live in barrow in cumbria, dont want to leave to much information on here, was in manchester the other wk and drove by to my old address on alexander rd, its a bit run down from wen i remember it i also noticed mine and yr mums school was replaced with houses, wot a shame about that loved that school, well wen i was ther lol. plz u shud av my e mail add now so wud love to here from yr mum di, yrs greatfully annmarie x
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just wanting to let you know dominic doesnt want people writing to him that he does not know i was a good iend of his brother damien and his children. i was there when damien died may he rest in peace but dominic is wanting to get this sentence over and done with and wants to come back out to his family and friends
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Mikey noonan you say ur related to me and my family its a lie ur neva related u dont no my family u just say u are so it makes u look big well it makes u look like a lyin nob how are you related ????
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Wednesday, 12th October 2005
Noonan case woman 'told to flee city'
POLICE advised the girlfriend of a man accused of killing "notorious gangster" Dessie Noonan to leave Manchester and start a new life, a court heard.
But mother-of-six Shajahan Cooke failed to tell them alleged killer Derek McDuffus had suffered a cut to his leg the night Noonan was stabbed, the jury was told.
The prosecution claims McDuffus murdered Noonan when he turned up at his home on the Merseybank estate in Chorlton to buy crack cocaine on March 18.
McDuffus denies murder. Cooke, 39, denies attempting to pervert the course of justice.
Examining why Cooke had not mentioned her boyfriend's leg injury, Paul Worsley QC said police had not directly asked her about it but had instead asked her to account for a red stain found at the top of the stairs in her home.
Although previous witnesses have said Cooke knew her boyfriend had killed Noonan, the court heard two police interviews in which she said she knew nothing about it.
Drugs
She told police she had first met McDuffus in a club in Hulme in March 1992 and they had set up home together until he was jailed for four years for drug offences later that year.
After serving two years, she said he was freed and the family moved from their rented home in Chorlton to their council house in Merseybank Avenue.
Earlier in the trial the court was told police called for armed officers to protect McDuffus because Noonan's brother Domenyk had launched his own murder hunt and was prepared to use guns to avenge his brother's death.
A risk assessment report argued police were needed to protect him when he was taken to hospital after his arrest with a gash to his thigh and high blood pressure. McDuffus told police at the time that he had suffered the cut as a result of a motorbike crash.
The trial has heard Noonan had in recent years become addicted to crack, but that McDuffus, who the prosecution say sold drugs from his home, refused to sell to him and that there was a history of bad blood between the pair.
Staggering
As a result, witnesses said 45-year-old Noonan used to ask other people living on the estate to go to McDuffus' house to buy drugs for him. On the night he was killed no one was prepared to help.
He was last seen alive staggering towards Merseybank Avenue drunk after a night out in a pub.
Soon afterwards he rang his wife on a mobile phone saying he had been stabbed. She found him collapsed near McDuffus' home. He died a short time later from a stab wound to his stomach.
The court heard the estate was awash with rumours following the killing and there were fears of reprisals from the Noonan family, some of whom had featured in a TV documentary just days after Noonan was killed.
A friend of Cooke, giving evidence during the trial, said she had a phone call saying everyone knew that McDuffus had killed Noonan and that "they" were going to bomb her house.
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Derek McDuffus was eventually found guilty of Dessie Noonan's murder and was seriously assaulted just hours after arriving in prison, spending several weeks in the hospital wing.
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No problem Soze! The Noonans are respected very much by their own people I hear. They have been active in anti-facist campaigns amoungst other things. They're really in touch with the needs of their community. I'm not saying they're angels, but who is??
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"A NOTORIOUS gangster was knifed to death days before a documentary is to be screened in which he boasts of being behind 27 killings - and of being untouchable..."
"...The pair feature in Gangster, journalist Donal MacIntyre's documentary on Britain's mob scene and Manchester's gangland culture due to be broadcast on Channel 5 tomorrow at 11pm."
That's the movie I was referring to. I apologize, I was out too late last night and up too early this morning.
It looks like it was just a TV program type documentary.
I wonder if I can get my hands on it. These Noonans sound... interesting to say the least.
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Ahhh, yes, it was on UK tv last night on Ch5. It's an hour long documentary following Dominick Noonan around Manchester, UK. It was first screened last year. Sorry, I haven't a copy of it Soze and I'm not sure how you could get a copy. Unless Ch5 have a website that you can download it off or even purchase it. Good luck!
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Thanks Soze, it is beginning to create alot of interest recently. Hopefully it will continue to become more informative with member's own articles and stories being posted on this topic.
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Dessie was also a good anti-fascist, involved with AFA and part of the Man Utd fanzine `Red Attitude`.
Manchester BNP couldn't organise because of Manchester AFA, here's what the fascist site National Vanguard wrote about him, while reviewing a book about anti-fascism.
Hann gives a partly accurate account of the collapse of South Manchester BNP in 1993 after the branch organiser was singled out for intimidation by an anti-fascist gang. One member of this gang is identified in the book only as "Dessie, an anti-fascist from the Eighties who was by now a well-known local 'face' about town." Hann gleefully tells the tale of how Dessie personally threatened the BNP organiser, ordering him to tell AFA everything he knew about the party in the region.
This gentleman's full name is Dessie Noonan, recently described by a Manchester journalist as "the underworld equivalent of Robocop." He was head doorman at the notorious Konspiracy Club in Fennel Street, Manchester, from November 1989 until police closed it in December 1990. This was the era of 'Madchester', when Salford's white gangs controlled the booming ecstasy and amphetamine trade, while the black gangs of Moss Side and Cheetham Hill dominated the heroin business.
Noonan has several brothers whose names all begin with the letter D – their father's tribute to Dublin, the city of his birth. Dominic Noonan is a convicted armed robber; Damian became head doorman at the Hacienda, the most famous club in Europe and centre of the dance music craze until rampant drug dealing forced its closure in 1991; Derek was a partner in the Penny Black pub in Cheetham Hill, headquarters of Manchester's leading criminal gang.
Dessie himself, in the words of Manchester Evening News journalist Peter Walsh, "was a notorious enforcer who had emerged from a jail term for conspiring to pervert the course of justice by threatening to kill witnesses in a robbery trial – the witnesses were police officers."
In 1989 Dessie had joined members of the Manchester anti-fascist Squad in a brutal attack on a group of Ulster Loyalists in the Rusholme district. One of his cronies, Paddy Logan, infamously bit the earlobe off one of the Loyalists. Many years later in July 1999 Logan was shot dead by a hooded assassin at his home in the Withington area of Manchester, sparking off a bloody gangland feud. Dessie Noonan preferred life at the safer end of a gun.
At a New Year party in 1991 some of Damian Noonan's successors on the door at the Hacienda were threatened by a gun-toting 22-year-old named Tony Johnson. Known as 'White Tony' because he was the white co-leader of a predominantly black gang of drug dealers, Johnson was already in trouble with members of the Noonan family because of a dispute over the division of the spoils from a £362,000 security van robbery at Mumps Bridge, Oldham, in November 1990.
White Tony was pushing his luck. On February 22nd he was driving with a friend past Derek Noonan's Penny Black pub when his car was flagged down. Johnson was shot several times, and then finished off at point blank range while lying on the ground in the pub car park. Manchester police were instantly aware that this was one of Manchester's most important gangland murders. They arrested Dessie and Derek Noonan, together with two of their known criminal associates.
The Noonan gang were tried twice for Tony Johnson's murder. The first trial in 1992 collapsed, the second in 1993 ended in acquittals. Greater Manchester Police are not looking for any alternative suspects. In 1999 Damian Noonan was shot while on the door at the Phoenix Club in the city. He refused to cooperate with police inquiries.
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Hi, would love a copy of the dvd if u still have it??! friends being banging on about it since it was on tv and really want to watch it now!!!
email ksr123@hotmail.co.uk to arrange
muchos gracias
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So called gangsters yeah right oh,hard men who like to be know for intimidating people.
A real hard man is some 1 who can fight with their hands 1 on 1.
Ive done my bit in the dutch specials and knowwhat crime is all about.
I laugh in the face of these so called hard (gangsters)hahahaha.
It will be funny when there all gone,domanic will be next i bet.
That is with any luck.
Wipe this scurge of the planet.
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watched the program on tv last night and thought they stupid shouting off there business for the whole world to see.
real gangsters move in silence...................
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I think The Noonens biggest problem is the youth who are trying to live on their name and reputation. Without Dominic they have no one to lead them or guide them.
They obviously have gained a lot of repect, as could be seen by the turn out for Des Noonens funeral. But the young loudmouth (who sucks his thumb) will never have the grace because he doesnt understand the correct motives for living the lifestyle other than for kicks.
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Only do stupid people go and pay the respects to such a scum bag family as the noonans.All those who went to the fureal were there to get on the camera or are as brain dead as the noonan family.in fact every one who was there looked like uneducated benefit scum,even red necked hill billy's from in bred americans deep south who marry brothers and sisters and have kid's probably have more brain's.
No education,no self respect nothing pond life.
As some 1 put real gangsters if you want to praise them and call them that have mec's porches bmw's and roll's royces not clapped out volvos???hahaha.
They all so dont get asked to be filmed like that brain dead family did,and live in big hundreds of thousands of pound houses with off shore bank accounts and the police under their belt and judges on the payroll too.
The noonans what a utter laugh.
I feel sorry for the people of manchester,good hard working honest kind law abiding people.
And fancy saying we have more guns and a bigger army than the police,this shows the intelligence of these illiterate scum.
All i can say is sentence the lot to the gas chamber,and let donal put that on tv that would make brilliant veiwing.
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You keep calling the noonan's and anyone who like's them thick and illiterate, have you checked your own spelling? your not very bright are you jaan?. Also people are entitled to there opinion without being rideculed and put down just cause you dont agree. Your making your self sound silly you dont know the noonan's, i do and they are not the low life you think they are. In future think before you post cause you will end up looking daft and silly as you do now.
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Thank you for them lovely words that you have wrote about my family.
let me just say that you do not no anything from watching an hour long documentary on the TV,as for us being uneducated and living on benefits looks can be decieving.
wot gives you the right to judge other people in that way based on exagerated facts i am shocked you even bothered wasting your time posting a message about a family that you think is scum.
my family is actually very hardworking and loving yes we stick up for ourselves, there is nothing wrong with that. I suggest that you get all the facts before you start writing messages like that. This just tells me that you haven't got much goin on in your life, and you are a very judgemental person just remember only god can judge.
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YEA IT SURE LOOKED LIKE THE NOONANS ARE A HARD GANG I DONT THINK SO A BUNCH OF SCHOOL BOYS RUNNING THERE MOUTHS OFF AND A LEADER A FAT PUFF THEY WOULDANT LAST 5 MINUTES IN LIVERPOOL
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So you grew up with the illiterate so called haha gangsters,is that meant to impress?.
So i guess your one of those who went to a bullys funeral then i see?did you record your self on vidoe and think eh!!! im famous now.
Congradulations,i guess your a hard gangster too then,hahaha.
stop your whinging,best when their all gone.
Gangsters my arse,im sure the krays had kids hanging around scruffy streets knowing their business too???didnt they(not).
GROW UP AND GO BACK TO SCHOOL.
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well after watching the programme gangster on ch 5 and coming across this website i felt i must reply.
I think everyone who watched the programme knows dominic is no angel.However,what comes across is the help he gave to people who felt they had nowhere else to turn.
The police couldnt help them but dominic did at every opportunity.I agree that some of the numpties (in particular the pock marked thumb sooking twat aaron) needed a good kick up the arse.They are in it for the fame and the hard man image.Real tough guys dont need to mouth off about what they could do!They have walked the walk and talked the talk.
My worry is that with Dominic banged up the yoofs will destroy any good work the guy has done in his community.Like i say i know he is no angel but at the end of the day he was there for his community.From what i ascertained from the programme the guy was brought up with nowt and rightly or wrongly decided to get something for himself.Cant blame the guy for that!
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bhoy what are you on about he grow up with nothing??.
How many other people have had a poor childhood and upbringing and had a real rough time,thats absoulte bollock's.
Ive alot of freinds in manchester and especially salford whem i come over from holland,and these people had poor upbringings too but didnt go round stealing,and intimidating people and dealing drugs,which is what they did,i know and have been told by other people who used to go to the clubs in manchester and get offered drugs of them.
I also was talking to a public house landlord who i shall keep anonymous who they used to say we want some of your takings for your protection.
Many of the so called hard gangsters are brain dead thug's end of storey.
none of those people could read or write let alone put figures together.
What im saying is people will look at manchester now and think what a scum bag place?the arse hole of britain.
And as i know it isnt at all.
I rest my case if you still want to sympathise with them well your just as thick as them and need to be locked up your self and taught education.why didnt they get normal jobs like every body else and pay taxes????is it 1 thing for them and the rest of the people have to suffer living in the same area.
Do you think that other country's would put up with it i know they wouldnt.
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dead on mate.look at all the work da noonans have done to help comunities and keep kids away from crime like boxing clubs,encouraging schoolwork,etc.whats wrong with fighting back at society when you have no money,nothing.
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I have known the kids since i was 6. And they were allways roges . And they had to bring themselves up. No wonder whats happend to them. sorry girls you had it bad as well.And lost your brothers. R I P The Boys
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i think anyone that new the Noonans understnad them and how they work, far enough they are not angels but how can u comment on if they are brain dead or not. I no a few people that are not as big in the game as the noonans from Chorlton/ Nell Lane and around those areas and believe it or not they are educated. I never went 2 school in the last 3 years but im educated. There are things u need to know in this world to be educated,Science and maths are not needed unless u wanna go to college, if they are so brain dead they would all be in prison and wouldnt have as much respect as they do if they where nobodys. So i personally think before u judge somebody get to know them first, u will be supprised.
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loz your so so wrong.
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February 3 2006, 6:37 PM
loz to say they werent uneducated is the sillyest thing ive heard,nearly all people who have been in prison cannot read and write its a fact?.
So please explaine to me why sutch people choose this pethetic way of life,please tell me come on explaine im all ear's.
as to why dont all people go to prison is because of whitness intimidation,also the good old judicial system being soft with these people,were the softest country in the world for justice,e.g in germany if you spit,drop litter and get seen to do so its a fine on the spot fine,if you carnt pay a few days in the nick,easy as that you dont do it again,unless your stupid enough too.
If you kill say in the usa or india its the death sentance,drugs in the far east death agian or life and i do mean life in prison,thats how it should be.
But yes its the doo gooders who dont want the death penalty and say you carnt mean life as life,how many people have done horrible crimes and got life and come out in say 14 years??thats supposed to be a punishment????.
Why dont we all follow suit and get away with it due to our good old judicial system?????i mean come on its only a few years at the tax payers expence isnt it.
It cost nothing to go to school and get educated doesnt it then get a real job and pay your way in (normal life)point made.
the noonans (the goonans more like.!!!!!!!!!
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How can you say "nearly ALL people who go to prison cant read or write"? You dont know what your talking about, who told you it was a fact? I dont like saying thing's like this on a comp but you are a fucking halfwit coming out with statement's like that. It is a mistake to think "most criminal's" are thick as pig shit. Your statement only prove's that your the one who need's educating and that my friend is a REAL fact not one of your "fact's". Just out of interest how old are you?
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to say that all people in prison are thick and is a fact is spot on.
I am a prison visitor at several prisons and 99.9 % are illerarate,so howdo you get your facts???.
shut up and learn you compleate tosser,when asked why they did their crime most inmates said because of the buzz(how silly),asked if they will be back inside most said yes,as they get used to it and form a friendship.educate your self man ffs your the fuckwit if anybody.
and jann is right we english are thick we are lazy and only know english as a language,that shows the mentallity of us.
no wonder we are the laughting stock of europe.
silly little man cyril.
I bet you need a good kicking.
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that is ignorant to say people who cant read are thick.i have met people who cant read or write and are a lot smarter than you or me.fucking idiot.i met people in the so called 'normal life' who have been pure scumbags and as thick as shit.
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It's obvious there is some resentment towards the Noonan family, and it is also true that a large proportion of the prison population are under-educated, but to claim they are mostly illiterate is just not true. Everybody is entitled to opinion but please do not make up facts!
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noonans fxxxing joke ..pikeys .who scared a few kids . i know its a bit late but been on my toes out here for 12yrs ,one of my my mates brought a copy of the programme ,, saw it about 2 months ago ,,embarrassing ,,
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I HAVE LIVED IN MANCHESTER AND HUNG ABOUT WITH DOM AND HIS FAMILY MANY YEARS AGO, AND THEN THROUGH NO CHOICE OF MY OWN HAD TO GO LIVE IN LIVERPOOL, AND BELIVE ME LITTLE MAN LIVERPOOL IS NOT AS TOUGH AS MANCHESTER, AND DONT 4 ONE SECOUND UNDER ESTERMATE THE NOONANS
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im a young an up an coming member of the noonan firm we repect who respect us and by the way dessie was the fighter and he fought with his fists so get ur facts right and the noonans can never be took out coz the next generation will be here before u know it rip damien an dez
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birming ham what a shite hole that is youve got some nerve calling manchester.
People from birmingham carnt even talk properly ffs,worst place in the uk hahaha.
And my mates from shard end.
He was glad to leave the shite hole known as birmingham behind.
Birmingham=scum hole .
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If certain posters cannot make their points without slagging eachother and eachother's cities then they will be barred from posting on this site! Come on people, this is so imature! Make your point regarding any topic on this site and leave it at that please! This is a site dedicated to discussing Irish O.C and not a place to come and act like children!
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for all of you who have expressed your respect for the noonans i thank you. for those of you who insist on slagging them off all i can say is that first impressions stick and i understand that. as dessies youngest daughter i would ask anyone with an opinion to express it by all means, but would also like to say that when some random person who has never met my father describes him as "uneducated scum" and says "im glad he was wiped out" it affects me deeply. the reputation my father had was not the best and as a self respecting young woman i didnt agree with that particular lifestyle myself, but as anyone who has ever lost a parent in such a brutal way will tell you that its the worst thing anyone could ever go through and i wouldnt wish it on the worst of my enemies.every wrong deed carried out by the noonans was outweighed with good loving caring deeds to all who knew them. my dad was a respected member of the community not for his criminal activity but for his ability to provide for his family in any way he could, so next time anyone feels the need to say "im glad he was wiped out" remember that his children and family are going through the greatest grief ever. he will be greatly missed as a father husband brother uncle and friend so try and have some respect for the rest of his "uneducated scum" family as they are hurting very badly!
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I 2 watched the program and i cant say i saw anything that was any different than what goes on in most cities around the country.You will always have 1 gang or family running things but like most things in life if you cant keep it going and you let things slip the past will always catch up with you.You cant upset loads of ppl and expect to get away with it for ever theres always someone out there willing to take your rep away if you let it slip.Dont get high on your own supply and never ever take your eye off the ball coz in that game you dont get a second chance.
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I ONLY MET YR FATHER A FEW TIMES, AND HE SEEMED A NICE GUY, I WAS ONLY A CHILD AT THE TIME, AND HUNG AROUND WITH DOM AND YR ANTIE WHO WOULD BE 39YRS OF AGE NOW, I DONT WANT TO SAY HER NAME BUT WE WENT TO SCHOOL TOGETHER AND WERE GOOD FRIENDS, I LIVED ON ALEXSANDER ROAD UNTIL I HAD TO MOVE TO LIVERPOOL, THAT WAS ABOUT 27YRS AGO, YOUR FAMILY TREATED ME LIKE ONE OF THERE OWN. I WOULD LOVE TO NO HOW YR ANTIE DI IS, HOPE SHE REMEMBERS ME... PLEASE TAKE GOOD CARE OF YOUR SELF, AND REMEMBER YR DAD WILL ALWAYS BE WITH YOU X
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What planet are you on i couldnt give a toss if there names started with a letter like omega? oh, by the way thats the first letter of the latin alphabet in case your to thick to know.
You werte the one saying"i dont want to name her name"then did you thick cow.simple as that.youve definatly got bse for sure.
Whatall the fuss abot a scub bag family any way.
for god's sake the world goes on and who gives a toss.
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GUY U CALL THIS FAMILY SGUM, BUT HAVE U LISTENED TO YOUR SELF? U SOUND VERY AGRESSIVE AND TROUBLED, SO WHAT IF I SLIPPED UP ON THE NAME WHATS IT TO U ANYWAY? AND IF U DONT GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THIS FAMILY WHY ARE U ON THIS SITE? ABOUT THE NOONANS? TRY AND CONDUCT YR SELF IN A BETTER MANOR!!!!!
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These guys certainly seemed like proper gangsters. The kind of people that care about their community and want to help protect and secure it from suffering with their security companies.
Gangsters can be put in different classes as can regular society.
There's plenty of gangsters running all the drugs from Spain, Canaries and other far off places.
Donal Macintyre does make interesting programmes there really are some daring organised criminals out there.
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Just listen to your self and read what you have posted. To be honest your making your self sound like scum, you dont know what your talking about and you certainly dont know if the noonan's are scum. Like the title to the post say's "you are sad".
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who in the fook cares any way.
I dont have to worry about some 1 stabbing me when im going out and about.
I dont have to rob bank's and securicor van's to obtain money.
I work like most decent people.
Who really cares about this silly family any way,only people who want to say oh i knew them and they were nice people right ok im sure they was(do i fook)??.
When i watched the documentary i felt ashamed to come from manchester/well salford in fact.get real and a life.
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that guy was spot on saying who cares any way ?i dont like he dont.enough said .
why is this site even here??,when the second brother got killed he was mithering his drug dealer for crack any way.
So again spot on (WHO CARES).
Not me too.and the world still turns.
I also felt ashamed to say im from manchester,did our parents fight for this decreasing counrty to become like this.
bring back execution,that will sort it,i mean if i was a criminal and thought oh well if i do wrong ill hang for it???i wouldnt be considering it NO WAY.
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It's here to discuss Irish OC all over the World! If you're not interested in it, don't bother visiting or posting- simple as that! Have you even bothered reading the dozens of other threads on this forum to understand what it's all about?? It's more than a Noonan family forum!
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DONT THINK THE NOONANS SHOULD BE ON THIS FORUM, BECAUSE THEY ARE FROM MANCHESTER AND NOT IRLAND, THER FATHER WAS IRISH NOT THEM, MY MOTHER IS IRISH, BUT IM NOT, AND DONT TELL ME THAT I DONT KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT COS I DO, IV KNOWN THEM ALL MY LIFE, DONT EVEN THINK THEY HAVE BEEN TO IRLAND!
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Most of members of La Cosa Nostra (Mafia) in America were not born in Italy or have never even been to Italy but you cannot tell me it is not fundamentaly an Italian organisation! You cannot become a member unless you are full blooded Italian i.e both sides of your family can trace their roots back to the old country. According to your philosophy, the whole US Mafia are American, but we know it goes much deeper than that! The same applies to the Irish Mob. Your statement is ridiculous! Where ever there is poverty and immigrants you will find organised crime.
I would describe the Noonans as Manchester Irish and that is what this site is all about! The influence of Irish immigrants on Organised Crime. If a pig is born in a stable, does it make it a horse?? Of course not!
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Your a person whos name will never be remembered and to be quite honest i think thats why your slagging dessie off anyway what kind of person slags a dead person? a fuckin scumbag thats who i'd love to see you face to face and see if you still have the same opinion about dessie and my family The Noonans with a black bag over your head in the boot of a car begging to be let free not knowing when your going to see daylight again because to be quite honest thats what id do to any one i got hold of who was trying to verbally direspect my uncle dessie, He wasn't a bad guy and the same people who slag him would be the same people who would come to my family for help when the police cant help you all make me sick YOU FUCKIN SCUMBAGS
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ur uncle was crack head muppet who never did an honest days work in his life and would rather ponce off the state and make old ladies scared to go out at night than sort his head out and use the money he once had to better his and your familys life
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I have met derek & damian noonan,in 1992/ 93 I can honestly say they are 2 of the nicest GENTLEMEN yes GENTLEMEN You could ever wish to meet.
I always remember going into Derek or Damians house were the coffee table was all covered in £50 notes under the glass top, never forget that.:)
Coming from a rival city,I'm from Liverpool,they took me under their wing,they looked after me and we became friends, but after a longtime unfortunatley Damien, died in a motorcycle accident while on holiday.
Although many years had passed I still felt a close friendship with the big fella,nice fella, Derek was last seen by me going to court,just by the crown court, we were laughing together.havent seen him for a longtime.
People only judge the bad side of the noonans,but I will ask this question.
HOW MANY PEOPLE do you know would give YOU a BRAND NEW car AND £500 to make sure you are ok ????????
ANSWER NOT MANY
Well thats what type of people Damien and Derek are.They did harm to people who did harm, those they liked they looked after.
To the NOONAN FAMILY.........KEEP SAFE & REMEMBER ME TO DEREK
R.I.P.DESSIE AND DAMO
BEST WISHES
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gettin a kick slagging off the uk u werent so cocky in sweden when we overtook the gaff at the euros ,and how can you slate our upbringings? doesnt matter where u come from winners rise to the top they dront drive around in 12 yr old clapped out motors .desperatly trying to impress young boys so they can fuck em ,and wearing played out clobber to go with their played out image ,living on past reps and overblown egos ,,joker wannabe fuk up gangster
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Birmingham aint even on the map, us manc's cant take you seriously cause your accent make's you sound pretty dumb. When a brummy speak's all i can picture is frank skinner. Also you say you got "REAL KILLER'S" in brum, what like the one's who killed them poor teenage girl's outside a hairdresser's one new year's eve a few year's back. Ive never heard anything else about so called gangland brum. Have you?
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Anyone know any other big irish mancunian families? I know one or 2 who are pretty big although not sure if they into crime 100% or not, seem to be a lot round sth manc ?
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The Ward family are from manc/salf. Nasty bunch. As for the noonans, well, its karma, think they knocked off a few people. (i.e white tony). If you move in those circles you run the risk of meeting other nutters. Manchester has too many gangs.
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I dont know if theyre related or just share the same name. I did hear that his dad was in jail for something a little naughty., and also that shane ward had a lot of threats via letter etc when he won popstars, from anonymous people in manc who had been affected by the wards. couldnt tell you more than that.
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ther are a few famillys in manchester such as
kylies well organised family
wards dont now much but av got thier name out ther
mc donna a small time familie but high in numbers
rileys a small familly from central manchester
shirleys a familly that reside in an manchester estate called hattersly
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thats the thing cyril you wouldnt of heard of any serious heads because serious guys dont brag and hang around with rent boys ,shout their mouths off and try to big up themselves its all about being low key and whenu do get gripped jus keep it stum do youre bird .a serious player has a credible business a plan and doesnt want to be known .im a manc not even from brum but i can tell youre a joker ,,just by youre name mad cyril ..
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dave sight you are a fukin arsebandit the real killers are not from birmingham at all birmingham is full pr fuking pakis and you are all a big bunch of retards what sort of a person are you bragging about the fact that they have th real killers? it isn't good to hav a city full of killers you stupid mong so i say you need to keep your mouth shut
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I AM DOMINIC NOONANS SON WE WILL BACK SOON SEE THE SURE NAME ON TOP AND WERE NOT A GAY FAMILEY ,FOR ANY ONE WE HELP THOUHS WHO CANT GO TO THE POLICE WE WILL HELP OUT AGAIN TRUST US LIKE YOU TRUST THE BOSS OR OUR KID.
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i have met the family before when my "irish republican band" played at damiens funeral.this family have helped our people inside manchesters prisons before and we have the up-most respect for them.
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hello im very gud mates with dom's nephew lil mikey i havent heard from him in a while i was woundering if you cud tell him me and all my mates dwn swinton miss him an please cud you tell him to get intouch soo iv tried his phones but there all off all my lv demi
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I've read Peter Walsh's book and the van a fella from Salford called Paul Massey used to drive around warning people not to grass and non grassers to do the grasses made me smile most and that White Tony Johnson sounded fucking mental!!!!
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Dont know if this is true but when i was in Preston nick a lad from Wythenshawe told me that Paul Massey used to collect money from Salfords residents and if you done a stretch u got looked after inside eg weed etc
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The Goonans more like, not the noonans. Scumbags all of them. RIP - my arse. A bunch of low life scumbags. Nobody is sorry to see them dead, oh it will come to the rest of them.. Took care of people in the community, again, my arse. They robbed, beat and stole from other people, so that they could ''help'' other people, but at others expense, physically, mentally.
He didn't even get what he deserved, it was too fast. Dying, bleeding to death in the gutter where they all belong.
Did I know him and the family, yes I did.
I had first hand experience of his big tough bully boy tactics, as he tried to rob a shop I work in, the big fat fucker got nothing from me though..probablly went down the road and robbed mars bars from school kids, or beat up a granny for a handbag.
Raped in prison..? I say the split arsed fucker paid someone to rape him. If he was that fucking big and connected, how'd he get 'raped' - cop on he was living a lie. I saw him in many a gay bar in manchester..
Nothing wrong with being gay, just something wrong with being a big fat robbing twat scumbag...
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im sick to deaf of hearing you people slaggin ma family you dont know my family my uncles are gud men and my uncle dez an damien were the best men you could ever meet if you had a problem no matter wot it would be sorted and how dare you say things like rip my arse wot have they done to you nothing noone deserves to die or be murdered and if they do wot kind of person slags them of i think ur just jealous because your family name isnt as well respected as our you very well maybe slaggin us of on the internet but face to face and over the internet are different things have some respect you disrespectful bastards thankyou to those who have the respect
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Hi JN, I run the forum and unfortunatly we get arseholes on here from time to time with nothing to contribute except verbal insults whilst being well hidden behind a keyboard. I had to close the Paddy Conroy thread because of the same thing!
Rise above it mate and check in here whenever you can!
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Thankyou to the forum for your reasuring message im just a youngster of the family and i know whats what i know theres quite a big thing about my family at the moment but my uncles are just men who had it tuff and im sure alot of people did but just because they grasped what they wanted and not giving a fuck , is not a reason for people slagging them of and id like to let people know that the side of my family you dont see or read about is very much against this so called GANGSTER family we are just an ordinary family there is a few thing that need to be set straight about the noonans and im the one who will set it straight.
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No probs JN! A lot of it is jealousy mate so as I say rise above it! Remember there are many people in this country who despise the fact that Irish families and families of Irish decent have risen to the top of the underworld here!
It's as much racial prejudice as anything else!
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Desmond "Dessie" Noonan' (1959–March 19, 2005) was a British organised crime figure in Manchester of Irish decent who acted as a political fixer for the Noonan crime family. He and his younger brother, Dominic Noonan, were suspected by police to be responsible for at least 25 unsolved murders during their 20 year reign in Manchester's underworld.
Mainly because of the very dangerous contacts Desmond Noonan had made during his reign as 'Britain's number one crime boss' his family were, at the end of the 1990s known as 'one of the most notorious crime families in British history'.
Early life
Born in Whalley Range, Manchester, Noonan emerged from poverty and into the criminal scene with his brothers Damian and Dominic Noonan. His criminal career began as a doorman in the early 1980s; his reputation as a fighter and his overall appearance gave him credibility on the club doors of Manchester.
Desmond then started to put his own men on the doors and by the late 1980s 80% of the Manchester nightlife security was said to be controlled by Desmond Noonan and the rest of the Noonan family. Around this time Dominic Noonan was jailed for 15 years for his part in an armed robbery at a bank in Cheetham Hill, Manchester. During his imprisonment, still in control of the crime family, Damian and Derek Noonan were forging links with other notable Manchester gangs including The Cheetham Hill and Salford Gangs.
The Noonan family tended to have nothing to do with the notorious Moss Side gangs, although Desmond was part of a group of men who provided the black gangs with guns and other weapons. After involving himself in Manchester's nightlife, Desmond started to get involved with other criminal circles outside of Manchester, including the Provisional Irish Republican Army (IRA) and Anti Fascist Action. He later on went to other cities to forge strong links in London, Newcastle and Liverpudlian gangs, as well certain crime figures within the West Midlands area. It is reputated that Desmond associated with many powerful criminal figures based in Leamington, Coventry and Birmingham. The association was based on the movement of guns and drugs between the West Midlands and North West. Although the relationship was prosperous, it sooned turned sour leading to a war which saw a number of executions take place in Manchester and Birmingham, ultimately ending with the slaying of Ashley Foley and Josh King, both were found shot in the face (to prevent an open casket funeral). Desmond Noonan was held by West Midlands police but the case was dropped due to lack of evidence.
Rise of the Noonans
Control of organised crime in the city fell to Desmond and his brothers following the 1991 gangland murder of rival leader of the Cheetham Hill Gang, Anthony "White Tony" Johnson, whose murder he was charged with and later acquitted of. Over the next several years, he faced a number of convictions in connection to witness intimidation and jury tampering resulting in key witnesses refusing to testify against him and other members of the Noonan family.
By the mid 1990s Desmond Noonan was known as a notorious enforcer feared and respected by all who knew him, he was known as a very dangerous and violent man and had links with a wide range of Britain's underworld, apparently making himself untouchable.
In 1995, four years later, Noonan was convicted of violently attacking twin brothers, during which he was reportedly described by the court as psychotic, and sentenced to 33 months imprisonment. The twin brothers later turned out to be London gangland figures who were apparently trying to get involved in Manchester's ever booming illegal drugs and gun trade.
By the end of the 1990s the Noonan family had been linked to 25 gangland murders, dozens of robberies and had a stranglehold on most of the nightclub security in many of the major cities across the UK, they had also made over 8 million pounds from bank robberies and security alone.
Desmond Noonan also began to venture into the nightlife of many other cities to gain more wealth, power and respect for the family. He and his brothers Damian and Derek started to acquire business interests in nightclubs in Liverpool, London and Newcastle.
The fact that Dessie had the audacity to try to do business in other cities with other gangland figures gave him a lot of credibility and respect and soon he was becoming involved with a number of notable crime bosses including the likes of the Liverpool drugs baron Curtis Warren, London show-biz mock-gangster and alleged 'friend' of the Krays, Dave Courtney and head of Newcastle's biggest crime family boss Paddy Conroy. Having contacts like these made the Noonan family stronger.
The strength and power of the family, in particular Dessie, allowed him to be a prime mover and peacemaker in the Manchester gang truces which for a short space of time brought the war in Moss Side to a head. Other Gangland figures participating in this truce were Paul Massey, Damian Noonan, Paul Flannery and apparently Jimmy 'The weed' Donnelly, who was a powerful figure in the QSG, another Manchester gang.
Later years
Desmond Noonan was said to have later developed a crack addiction and Dominic Noonan on his release from prison in 2002 became head of the Noonan crime family, after the death of Damian Noonan in 2003.
Death
After last being seen on the night of March 18 drinking at The Park pub in Northern Moor, Wythenshawe at around 11:30 a.m., Sandra Noonan received a phone call from her husband early Saturday morning who told her he had been stabbed and asked her to pick him up in the suburb of Chorlton. By the time she had arrived, Noonan was lying unconscious in Merseybank Avenue. Sandra Noonan then called for an ambulance. He died of his wounds before arriving at Manchester Royal Infirmary.
Held on April 22, 2005 his funeral in south Manchester was reportedly attended by hundreds of local residents with a kilted pipe band playing as his body arrived in a horse-drawn hearse at Chorlton church. His younger brother Damian Noonan had died 2 years earlier in a motorbike accident whilst on holiday in the Dominican Republic.
Derek "Yardie Derek" McDuffus, a local drug dealer, was charged on June 15 after appearing at Preston Crown Court and eventually convicted of his murder (receiving life imprisonment, he has since been placed in solitary confinement for his protection against retribution from the Noonan family[4]). It is suspected by authorities that Noonan, who had supposedly become a drug addict during the last months of his life, had been strong arming local drug dealers into giving him narcotics and had left the pub intoxicated in search of a drug dealer. Derek McDuffus, 41, from south Manchester, was charged and found guilty of his murder. It is believed McDuffus stabbed Noonan and threw him out of his residence where he bled to death in the street.
Noonan died four days before the broadcast of journalist Donal MacIntyre's documentary MacIntyre's Underworld, Die On The Wall featuring him and his brother.
The younger generation
Although the deaths of Desmond and Damian Noonan and the jailing of Dominic Noonan has put considerable strain on the families stranglehold in the city they are still said to be the most powerful crime family in Manchester and one of the most powerful in Britain.
As shown in Donal Mcintyre's documentaries on the crime syndicate there are a few pretenders to the Noonan family throne. The young guns are making their mark on the city of Manchester, and already there are some who have spent time incarcerated, often for violent offences.
A nephew aged 15 was jailed for six years after he was convicted of stabbing two older teenagers who had allegedly tried to rob him. During his time in prison he attacked two Prison Governors and five Prison Wardens and started three different riots in two separate jails. Two weeks after his release in 2007, three police officers came to see him at his mother's house, (Dominics sister) and he ran out to the door with just a towel around him and began fighting with the policemen who promptly arrested him; he is currently serving another three year sentence.
Damian Noonan's twin sons Damian and Desmond have also had their share of prison time. Desmond Noonan was jailed for three years just after his father's death in 2003 for 'death by dangerous driving'. Whilst in prison he was inside the prison chapel after hearing that Dessie had been killed when a prison worker allegedly disrespected Dessie, Desmond and other prisoners in the chapel at the time defaced the altar, barricaded themselves in the chapel and caused £80,000 of damage to the chapel itself. Desmond was released in November 2006 and subsequently jailed again in June 2007. During the time he was released he had been arrested and questioned along with other underworld figures on charges ranging from kidnap and torture to attempted murder. Desmond immediately left the country after apparently being involved in a shooting in Salford he fled to the Dominican Republic so he could 'lay low' for a while whilst the police were investigating. After hearing that his brother had been arrested and charged he returned to Britain and promptly handed himself into the police to be questioned, he was never charged.
Damian Noonan whilst his brother had been away had assaulted a bouncer after he was refused admittance to a nightclub. He was given 15 months in jail because of the alleged viciousness of the attack. It was claimed that the doorman in question was later fired by the manager of the nightclub, who was good friend of the Noonan family. Damian was later released on license from prison, but he is now on the run after allegedly being involved in 2 attempted murders in 2 different cities he is wanted by Greater Manchester Police.
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theres a definate problem with the excuse that the noonans had it tough .where im at the moment ,the locals have it proper tough ,some fukkers havent even got shoes , a good job for a local is 25 quid a month but you dont see them going robbin their own or terrorising their neighbourhoods in fact its the total opposite when a local here gets something of value they treasure it ,theres no dole out here ,nobody to give you free food in jail you get fish heads and rice, if you think im bullshitting yore wrong and ill call or txt any number so youve got the country code ,,,weak and lazy minds make weak and lazy people who would rather bully and,intimidate , to make a few quid then use their brains and drag themselves out of the hole they feel theyre in and wrong if you do someone up the arse of the same sex as yourself ur gay ,gettin raped in jail should put you off packin fudge ,shouldnt give you a hint of lavender
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You fuckin wanker im a noonan an who are you to judge when your halfway acroos the world you daft cunt england needs sortin out before the fuckin asians you daft cunt my sayin is POVERTY STARTS AT HOME no 1 gives a fuck about the poverty in asia u prick or i feel sorry they each fish heads and rice BOO HOO SO FUCKIN WHAT dont think you can slag my fam an id love to see you slag dominic to his face you'd get a fudge you lil prick Fuckin do one you daft bastard you say you feel sorry for them in asia HOW MUCH DID YOUR COMPUTER COST AND INTERNET CONNECTION i bet your sat in a fuckin warm gaff while the asians are in fuckin little huts with roofs made out of straw
NOONANS FOR LIFE
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Are you guys total idiots! Watched the dvd A Very British Gangster last night here and found it sad that young guys like yourself are heading to a dark future.
I was born in Salford (Ordsall Estate) and moved out of there to the US (Kansas) back in 2000 to escape the kind of shithole, scum like you have made it. You guys aren't hard in the fucking least, get one of you by yourself and your be pissing yourself crying for your mum.
Listen up fools I was born there, have had illness all my life too while living there (crohns) and still worked with illness yet I married moved to the US and now OWN 3 businesses, llc companies over here as proof you can do anything if you put your mind to it and simply don't accept the easy way, rob, sell drugs, bully, etc sadly though this will go in one ear and out the other. Sure you guys make good money but so do I here and its all honest big big difference.
Before its too late do something more with your lives. The guy among you who sings (Elvis) has a good voice and could make good but of course given the course your heading along doubt any of you will listen.
Personally Im just glad I got out of Salford when I did
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i understand your point but at the end of the day you watch at documentry that was threw together to make a quick buck but you don't see our point of view
for my uncles there wasn't any other ways of making money then to do things against the law
and you being from the ordsall estate, i would have thought you could understand i don't need to do stuff that my uncles did because my mother put me into good education and taught me to use my mind
and she also wants the best for me like any mother/father
i don't want to go down the same paths as my uncles but you don't know some of the things they've been threw in life
i know this doesn't excuse some of the wrong deeds they commited but they were just products of there environment
and i disagree with your comment because the noonans are known to be able to fight
thats how they grew notoriety because they started off as doormen on some of the best clubs in manchester and guarateed every night they would be challenged to a one on one fight and times out of 10 they would win or they wouldn't be Head doormen
my uncles weren't just gun totting shitbags like there portrayed they were good decent men
who did what they had to
and help alot of decent law abiding people out as well and did alot for charity
so before you cast judgements read between the lines
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