I am a f/t freeballer and a frequent visitor to this site but have rarely contributed until now. I believe, since most of us freeball for the comfort of not wearing underwear I was wondering if any of you carry that "comfort" to not wearing undershirts. And enjoy the feel of your shirts against your skin. For me I enjoy the feel my pants, jeans and shirts or polos aginst my skin even in the winter months of snow. Anyone else feel the same way. I don't like wearing socks either.

Thanks for the sharing opportunity.

Elliott

I usually just wear a shirt untucked and jeans for the summer. During winter, I will add a T shirt and long sleeve flannel shirt.
Years ago I worked with a guy who freeballed full time. He usually wore a long T with button down shirt. Said the T
shirt kept things out of his zipper. I am almost always in 501's. Khakis and dress shirts work fine too.

Since I am retired, I usually wear a pocket T-shirt as my only article of clothing above the beltline and freeball in jeans just about all the time. I will wear dress slacks, etc. when dressing up, but never UW. In the winter I may put on a flannel shirt over the tee to stay warm. Even with dress shirts, no undershirt underneath tho.

I'll wear a T-shirt but not as underwear -- its always as my outer shirt. I like the ones with a pocket to hold a pencil. (Yes I am somewhat a geek -- Math teacher.) If no pocket, the pencil will be clipped in the neck opening. I will never wear underwear -- shirt or shorts. I usually do not wear socks -- and in fact cannot remember the last time I wore them. I think I own a pair or maybe two but I don't know where they are. I'm either barefoot or in Berkenstocks year 'round.

For trousers its botton-fly jeams -- 501s are nice but I prefer Levis with a shorter rise. They have a discount brand called "levis signature" without numbers that comes in low rise button fly that is a thinner denim that I like.

Hugz
Bobby

Undershirts never really bothered me, so I wear them regularly. I live in New England, but hate being cold, so they're very useful in the winter.

Same for socks--I wear them and don't find them uncomfortable.

So Wylie, doesn't your bottom half get cold in the winter too?
Put on some boxers

Umm...no, my bottom half is fine, and I find underwear (boxers, etc.) to be uncomfortable.

For whatever reason, I just don't see much difference between wearing an undershirt and not wearing one, so I wear them. I have to look "respectable" at work, and, unlike with boxers (or lack thereof), it's easy to tell when someone is (or is not) wearing an undershirt.

You have to wear a t-shirt or undershirt to look respectable? My boss is the only one here who wears a suit and it is always a dark blue two-piece suit. The shirt is not always white but he never wears an undershirt. He is still pretty respectable.

I, like most men under 45 in the UK, don't wear undershirts. I know absolutely NOBODY who wears them. Not a single person. There wasn't even anyone at school who wore them when we got changed for PE. If a man is too cold, he normally puts a jumper over his shirt; not a vest under his jumper.

I never have worn an undershirt

I have never understood the importance of them, if you are that cold on your upper half then wear a sweatshirt....


I have never worn an undershirt, and don't own a single piece of underwear....

that's all

Underwear???Where????
Bye Now

From Planet Nate Who loves the breeze on his Penis and Balls through his underwear free shorts!!!!!!!!!!( and enjoying the last days of hotness hopefully without accidents)

I wear undershirts under sweaters and sometimes dress shirts because my underarms sweat a lot even with antiperspirant and I figure I can get multiple wearings out of them and just wash the undershirt.

I wear tee shirts most of the time, the ones with a statement, design, or logo on them. For dressier times, I will wear a nice shirt, but still no undershirt. So, no I really don't wear any other shirts but one. And I do not wear a shirt under a shirt. The least amount of clothing to be worn is what I like.

DALE.

RE:""I was wondering if any of you carry that "comfort" to not wearing undershirts""

Never in my life except the underconciousness age I hadnt wear it, undershirt. When I was young - there was a common fashion between schoolboys to say, if one wears an undershirt, he seems old russian druncard, never to try be similar with. Real boy never wears it.

Times are changing, seems today`s youngsters are not still speaking the same about shirts, their role have gone to the shoulders of girlies. As a teacher and tutor I may witness students are much more uptighter as schoolboys, and especially schoolgirls, who are very free-thinkers.

Only couple of days ago at one teacher meeting we discussed what to do or not to do with large group of schoolgirls (forms 9...12) seems wide openly not wearing an undies. Without of saying my own preferance I had a chance to explain - the Brittney Spierce and Paris Hilton examples seems had an influence over them and there is no meaning to have an useless struggle for no a big need.

That is fashion reality, the 5 until 8 girls at each class sitting at desk (especially it is visible at controlwork writing time) are exposing a buttcrack until the last lowest quarter and still no a least sign of strings.

It would be very unprofessional to show an interest about it, but I am 99,9% sure, them are the same as we all here in their mind. Contraversial, about students/studentesses I never had seen it - they are too old-fashioned.

Yeah, sure, i never wear undershirts.

Growing up we all wore a "vest" in 1950s/60s UK

I stopped wearing them in my first job, in an office, age 16.

I don't wear undershirts.
I don't know anyone below the age of 70 who does.

Marseil.

I don't sweat, but my body oil is just oily enough that white shirts turn yellow if they are not washed within 24 hours. (Think of "ring around the collar.")

Even though I live in Florida, I have to accept it as a fact of life.

You can get T-shirt in crew neck or V-neck, or athletic shirts, but I have also seen stylish young men with visible white showing at the neck line. I prefer to see myself as "stylish" if not "young."

First, a little history. At one point in history, a shirt was an undergarment. Apparently throughout history, there has always been a garment that was equivalent to the shirt, assuming an upper body garment was worn at all. At some point, an undershirt was introduced, though I have done absolutely no research to find when that happened. But when it did, the shirt became the "over-shirt," at least in some places. The shirt was a common outer garment even when a coat was commonly worn no matter what the weather.

The white t-shirt was (supposedly) originally worn in the US Navy to cover the men's chest hair, this being worn under the wide neck jumper. The men in the US Army habitually wore the shirt with the collar fastened, with or without a tie, and so the t-shirt was unnecessary. But a sleeveless undershirt was worn instead.

In the British Army, undershirts or t-shirts (vests) were not issued or worn down into the late 1940's. Woolen vests were issued for winter wear and withdrawn in the spring (unless requested for wear by motorcyle messengers!). Now they wear t-shirts like everyone else.

Now in these latter days, you see a t-shirt (not necessarily white) being worn under polo shirts. I think the reason there is pure fashion--the layered look. In my case, I wear a t-shirt, nearly always with a v-neck or u-neck, to help keep my shirt a little cleaner. I find that my deoderant tends to stain my shirts over time and a t-shirt eliminates that problem. When did men start using roll-on deoderant?

Which leads me to a pertinent question: how do we manage the cleanliness problem when not wearing underpants? Do we wash our pants more often?

As a kid in post-WW2 Britain, vests were the bane of most kids lives and, seemingly, the weapon of choice of most mothers, who generally didn't wear the things themselves. All kids of my generation were expected to wear a vest, even in summer, and most kids tried their hardest not to wear one, even in winter. To young, healthy, active kids, vests were restrictive, clingy, often itchy garments, and it was much more pleasant sensation to have free-space between one's torso and one's shirt. It still is! Until I was almost in secondary school, if I was encouraged to leave off any item of clothing in hot weather, it was more likely to be my underpants than my vest - so arguably we're not "off-topic", and I was ten years old before I spent a whole summer not wearing a vest, although Mum insisted on me wearing one again when cooler weather came along.

As I've posted already, after I had been at secondary school for a couple of years, the PE staff decided that it would be healthier for us to do PE topless and, in a somewhat revolutionary move, actually took a vote among us on the matter. Not surprisingly, toplessness got a 100% vote. Although we were expected to wear our regulation PE vests between the changing room and the gym, removing them once we actually reached the gym, most of us soon settled into the routine, first of wearing our ordinary underwear vests for this 20 yard sprint, and very soon of not weearing a vest at all. Of course, we very soon got into the habit of "forgetting" to put our vests back on under our shirts after PE and, as we had PE every morning of the week, we consequently spent most of our school days minus our vests. Pretty soon, we didn't bother coming to school in a vest at all, much to the concern of our parents, who seemed to feel that all youngsters, even teenage boys, should wear vests all the year round, as protection against catching cold. For some reason, this didn't seem to apply to girls, because when my sister, three years younger than me, got her first bra, at the age of 11 or so, Mum actually encouraged her to stop wearing vests - which she did with great alacrity and without catching any more colds than usual, and I still remember a somewhat surreal discussion in which Mum maintained that she and my sister didn't need to wear vests because they had their bras to keep them warm, while I really ought to start wearing one again because I didn't wear a bra. However, by this time, I was firmly wedded to to the idea of not needing vests ever again, a fact soon recognised by Mum when she started using my now discarded garments as rags and dusters. Half a century on, i still haven't felt the need to revert to wearing a vest under a shirt or sweater.

I was interested to read Sidona's message about vesrs.

As a child in the late 60s/early 70s I was expected to wear a vest. My parents weren't impressed when I first left mine off in the Summer. I was about 13 at the time. My father told me i should wear one to absorb any sweat. I also had aan older sister who never seemed to wear a vest once she started wearing bras.

I don't think my parents would have been impressed if they knew I sometimes went without an underpants (lack of vest was noticeable through light shirts and teeshirts). I don't think they would have been as cool as yours wee about that.

Anyway as soon as I left home at 18 vests were reduced to winter wear fir a year or two then consigned to history. Freeballing as continuedto be prt time for me, and pjamas gave way to nude sleeping as soon as I had a bedroom to myself.

I used to freeball sometimes as a young lad. My parents didn't know and i always reckoned they would not agre with the idea. they were very conservative and believed in modesty and being covered - most of the time. When I was about 14 my neighbour saw some mates and myself having a few beers down by the river bank. When I returned home the ews hd been realyed ahead of me. My father asked me what i had been doing and I kept sayng nothing. Eventually he challenged me directly with the fact taht I had been drinkung.I admitted it - no choice really. He ordered me into the front room and told me to strip -oops no underwear. So as well as a hiding for drinking, I also got whacked for lieing and not wearing umderpants.

As a child in the early sixties, my Mum always insisted that I wore a vest, wool in winter, cotton in summer, and until I started school and was exposed to other children changing for PE and games, I thought that this was what everyone did automatically. In fact, among my class of about twenty kids, only four or five of us, me included, actually wore vests all the year round, and while most of us donned them in the depths of winter, once the warmer weather arrived, most kids went vest-less as a matter of course. After a couple of years, I managed to convince Mum that I wasn't going to die of frost-bite automatically if I went outside without a vest in Summer, but it wasn't until we went looking for my first bra at about the age of eleven, that true liberation came. Naturally, it being November, I was wearing a vest, and naturally, the bra-fitter (Mum insisted in doing it properly) nearly had an apoplectic fit when Mum suggested that I should be measured over my vest because, as she so elegantly put it, "Sandy always likes to wear a vest, and I think she should wear her bra over it to save washing". When I protested that I didn't ACTUALLY "like to wear vest", the shop lady took Mum aside and politely pointed out that healthy eleven year old girls didn't wear vests, even in winter, and that there was no way that a bra could be fitted properly if worn over a vest. Mum hesitated for a moment or two, repeated her opinion that I liked to wear a vest, but this time adding "don't you, Sandy", and then, almost before I realised what was happening, surrendered. I took my vest off, was measured for my bra and managed to get my jumper on again without Mum noticing that my vest was lurking under the seat in the fitting room - and that was that! Not only have I never worn a vest since, but I learned from the experience. None of my three children has ever been made to wear a vest against their will - and their will is encapsulated in the well-known phrase "Mum, nobody ever wears a vest, it's wimpish".

For one brief shining moment around 1970, (some) young people were supposedly very liberated. That was during the day of hip huggers, tye-dying, granny glasses, anything folksy and so on. Included was the braless look. I even saw once or twice some sweet young lady wearing a really see-through top and this was in public, sitting in the student union building where I was going to college. This was also when bikini underwear made an appearance, including for guys as well, presumably so it wouldn't show when worn under hip hugger jeans. Ironically, however, my impression of the hippie look, as it was generally referred to (not all college students dressed like that), was one of over dressing. That is, they looked like they were more clothing that necessay for the temperature. Also, the hippie crowd, girls anyway, did not seem to wear miniskirts. The skirts were nearly always ankle length.

I have no first hand experience, literally, with the underwear that hippies wore but my grandmother wore only vests, never a bra, but she had apparently given up wearing her corsets. She was born in 1876 or 1879. She called underpants "step-ins" but I don't recall how she referred to her vests, but it wasn't singlet or tank-top. But understand English is not my primary language (I'm American), so I'm not entirely certain of the meaning of "vest" as used in the U.K., only it's not a waistcoat. As far as I could tell, the only difference in a man's undershirt (sleeveless) and a woman's was the woman's had a little bow right in front.

The brafreedom fad began in the mid-60s almost simultaneously among two very different groups- hippies and feminists. The feminists regarded the bra a symbol of man's "enslavement" of women- and staged a bra-burning at the 1968 Miss America pageant. This was a very rebellious time and once this was in the news young women all over the country were- if not burning their bras- at least not wearing them. Since I was on a large college campus during this time I had plenty of opportunity to observed this phenomenon. I'd say it peaked around '70-72 but remained a common summer fashion through the 1970s.

The celebrated bra-burning at the Miss America pageant never happened. There was a bra ceremonially dumped into a "freedom trash can" along with other stuff, and a journalist created the myth from that, based on men burning draft cards, which was really happening around that time. It's quite possible that later on, women in other places did burn bras, copying what they thought had happened in Atlantic City.

Anyway, it's a trend that didn't last. For us hetero guys, very sad.

Yes I know they didn't actually burn the bras because the Mayor's office found out about their plan and sent cops to stop them- saying they couldn't burn anything without a permit. So they pretended to burn the bras while photographers snapped photos, one which I have somewhere in my immense file of clippings.

This is why I said they "staged" a bra-burning, since to explain all this ancillary detail would only be superfluous to the point. In any case- as you note- later- there were actually bra-burnings on many college campuses- including my own.

As for the trend "not lasting"- I was still seeing braless women at the mall and sporting events well into the early to mid-80s so I wouldn't say it was a brief fad, but it certainly is gone now- today women wear bras even with halters and tank-tops and tube tops which were always worn braless in the '70s. They don't care that the bra straps show. So guys with saggy pants aren't the first to walk around with their underwear showing.

I always uses to wear a tee-shirt as an undershirt / vest all year round 24 /7 until I had to spend about 2 months in hospital 3 years ago. As it was always hot in the hospital I got into the habit of just wearing a teeshirt (and long pyjama pants) when on the ward. When I then came home I took off my teeshirt, put my ordinary shirt on ( it felt great against my bare skin and so much more comfortable) and I havn't looked back and worn an undershirt since.

What would you poor mother say? Her little boy not wearing a vest and running the risk of catching a cold? LOL. Have you tried the freedom of not wearing underpants?

As I'm 38 I don't think she'd be that bothered (even though I'm still - in her eyes - her little boy. As for the freeballing - well yes I've tried and enjoyed the experience. I usually FB at the weekends and always in shorts.