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  1. Since Jan 1 06 View Thread - Lando Lopes on Jan 8
    1. Re: Since Jan 1 06 - leo on Jan 8
      1. Re: Since Jan 1 06 - Anonymous on Feb 12
     
  2. New MSN Community! View Thread - Anton19 on Feb 8
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  3. Commando Jeans View Thread - JackNJax on Jan 31
    1. copy-cat brand - Anonymous on Feb 1
    2. Commando Jeans - Mac on Feb 1
      1. Re: Commando Jeans - cool beans boi on Feb 1
        1. Commando Jeans - Mac on Feb 1
          1. PS - Mac on Feb 1
            1. ... or even: - Anonymous on Feb 1
              1. Re: ... or even: - cool beans boi on Feb 1
            2. Re: PS - cool beans boi on Feb 1
        2. Exhibitionism? - Ken P. on Feb 4
    3. Rip off jeans idea - Armourdillo on Feb 2
    4. Re: Commando Jeans - Terry-K on Feb 3
    5. re: Commando Jeans - mikebear4ever31 on Feb 3
    6. looking good! - rob on Feb 7
     
  4. Freeballing football fans... View Thread - Mikebear4ever31 on Feb 6
    1. Re: Freeballing football fans... - Jerry on Feb 6
     
  5. TV- COPS View Thread - George on Jan 23
    1. re: cops - Mikebear4ever31 on Feb 6
     
  6. LOW RISE JEANS View Thread - Jason on Jan 18
    1. low rise jeans - ramblin on Jan 18
      1. Re: low rise jeans - Anonymous on Jan 18
        1. LOW RISE JEANS - lyk2byke on Jan 19
          1. girl-jeans - Steven W on Jan 19
      2. Low-rise pants and briefs - CycleGuy on Jan 20
    2. Re: LOW RISE JEANS - coolbeans boi on Jan 18
    3. diesel - mark on Jan 19
      1. DIESEL JEANS - lyk2byke on Jan 19
        1. Re: DIESEL JEANS - Bobby on Jan 19
    4. Levi Offenders - Ramblin on Jan 20
      1. Re: Levi Offenders - Jeffrey on Jan 20
        1. OFFENDERS - lyk2byke on Jan 20
    5. Other Low Risers - Ramblin on Jan 20
    6. post pics - jeaned-out on Jan 20
    7. re: low rise jeans - Mikebear4ever31 on Jan 21
      1. oops, spelling - Mikebear4ever31 on Jan 21
    8. Low Rise - Shaver_69 on Jan 21
    9. Re: LOW RISE JEANS - RockyCdn on Jan 22
      1. LOW RISE WAIST TO BIG??? - lyk2byke on Jan 24
        1. Re: LOW RISE WAIST TO BIG??? - RockyCdn on Jan 29
          1. YOU SHOW PUBES AND ASS?? - lyk2byke on Jan 30
    10. Rufskins lowrise - cali on Jan 26
      1. Yikes! - CycleGuy on Jan 27
      2. Rufskins lowrise - hegemony on Jan 28
        1. re: rufskin website - mikebear4ever31 on Jan 29
          1. Re: re: rufskin website - cool beans boi on Jan 29
            1. Re: re: rufskin website - Alexsport on Jan 30
              1. HOT MODELS IN RUFSKINS - lyk2byke on Jan 30
                1. Re: HOT MODELS IN RUFSKINS - Alexsport on Jan 31
                2. Wear them - Jeffrey on Jan 31
                  1. LOW RISE - ULTRA LOW RISE - lyk2byke on Jan 31
              2. Re: re: rufskin website - cool beans boi on Jan 30
                1. Re: re: rufskin website - Alexsport on Jan 31
    11. Low Rise Jeans - Ken P. on Feb 4
    12. Discussion Group for lowrise jeans guys - Ken P. on Feb 4
     
  7. mesh short View Thread - freeballing pete on Jan 9
    1. shouldn't be a problem - pbladd on Jan 10
    2. N2N - Jeffrey on Jan 10
      1. Re: N2N - Jerry on Jan 10
        1. web address - Jeffrey on Jan 11
      2. n2n - dusty on Jan 11
        1. mesh shorts - freeballing pete on Jan 11
        2. can not post pic - freeballing pete on Jan 13
          1. Resizing photos - Nat on Jan 13
            1. completely lost - freeballing pete on Jan 13
              1. Willing to help - sfcarl on Jan 14
                1. Re: Willing to help - sfcarl on Jan 14
              2. Re: completely lost - Nat on Jan 14
                1. ok i will try - freeballing pete on Jan 15
                  1. Re: ok i will try - Nat on Jan 15
                    1. LOST LOST - freeballing pete on Jan 15
                      1. Same - Nat on Jan 15
    3. nothing uniform - cdadbr on Jan 14
      1. US nudity statutes - Jeffrey on Jan 16
        1. leeeeuuuuuudddddd - cdadbr on Jan 16
          1. Mesh Shorts - Don on Jan 16
            1. Re: mesh shorts - SEANekkid on Feb 4
        2. Re: US nudity statutes - CycleGuy on Jan 17
      2. sports attire - lyk2byke on Jan 19
     
  8. Laundry View Thread - Mike on Jan 26
    1. re:laundry - leo on Jan 26
      1. re: laundry. - mikebear4ever31 on Jan 26
        1. Re: re: laundry. - cool beans boi on Jan 26
          1. re:re: laundry - mikebear4ever31 on Jan 26
            1. Re: re:re: laundry - cool beans boi on Jan 27
              1. Re: re:re: laundry - mikebear4ever31 on Jan 27
                1. Re: re:re: laundry - mikebear4ever31 on Jan 27
                  1. So sorry - Cycleguy on Jan 27
                    1. So Sorry - mikebear4ever31 on Jan 27
                      1. Re: So Sorry - cool beans boi on Jan 28
                        1. Ask and Ye Shall Receive - Ken P. on Feb 4
                  2. Re: re:re: laundry - cool beans boi on Jan 27
          2. re:boyfriend - leo on Jan 27
     
  9. Please use a name when posting View Thread - Nat on Feb 2
    10.  
  10. Brokeback Mountain View Thread - NBD on Jan 8
    1. Re: Brokeback Mountain - Eric on Jan 8
    2. Re: Brokeback Mountain - cool beans boi on Jan 8
      1. Re: Brokeback Mountain - AFwetcargos on Jan 8
        1. wet jeans - lyk2byke on Jan 30
      2. Brokeback Mountain - NBD on Jan 8
    3. This is the way! - Mac on Jan 10
      1. It Happend One Night - the film that changed the world - NBD on Jan 11
      2. Re: This is the way! - cool beans boi on Jan 11
     
  11. John Cena Freeballs View Thread - boxerguy on Jan 28
    1. Cool site - Drew on Jan 29
    2. John Cena - Mike on Jan 30
     
  12. Carolina Panthers Player View Thread - Phil on Jan 3
    1. Re: Carolina Panthers Player - Alexsport on Jan 4
      1. Re: Carolina Panthers - Lu on Jan 4
        1. Re: Carolina Panthers - Alexsport on Jan 5
    2. most do - freeballing pete on Jan 6
      1. Re: most do - Tom on Jan 27
     
  13. Untitled View Thread - FB23 on Jan 26
    1. She Noticed Also - Jacob on Jan 26
      1. She Noticed Also-1 - Jacob on Jan 26
    2. flashing - James on Jan 27
      1. Don't worry about it man - cali on Jan 27
     
  14. Baltimore-Washington View Thread - Jerry on Jan 25
    1. Baltimore-Washington - Jerry on Jan 25
    2. MetroDC - CycleGuy on Jan 27
     
  15. Naked View Thread - Tom on Sep 18
    1. Buff sleeping - Nat on Sep 18
      1. Buff Sleeping - Jimmy on Sep 27
        1. Re: Buff Sleeping - Nat on Sep 27
          1. Re: Buff Sleeping - Jimmy on Sep 28
            1. Clothesfree families - Nat on Sep 28
              1. Clothes Free - Jimmy_VA on Sep 28
                1. Re: Clothes Free - Nat on Sep 28
    2. sleeping naked - mikebear4ever31 on Jan 24
     
  16. Shaver Site View Thread - Shaver_69 on Jan 21
    1. Re: Shaver Site - Anonymous on Jan 23
    2. shaver site - Mikebear4ever31 on Jan 23
     
  17. SPECIAL EVENTS View Thread - FIESTAenMIA on Jan 7
    1. in a tux at my str8 roommate's wedding (no message) - NakedBudd on Jan 8
    2. Re: SPECIAL EVENTS - cool beans boi on Jan 8
    3. Special events` - Mike Mercer on Jan 8
    4. Fulltime Freeballer - Freesalvadorean . on Jan 9
    5. Re: SPECIAL EVENTS - Jerry on Jan 9
      1. i did - freeballing pete on Jan 9
    6. Re: SPECIAL EVENTS - Bobby on Jan 9
      1. Naked under your robe? - pasarefun on Jan 18
        1. Re: Naked under your robe? - Bobby on Jan 19
          1. Pictures - pasarefun on Jan 20
            1. Re: Pictures - Bobby on Jan 20
              1. Re: Pictures - pasarefun on Jan 23
    7. Re: SPECIAL EVENTS - Balto48 on Jan 9
    8. Wedding Party - Jay on Jan 12
     
  18. F'ballin in sweats View Thread - Nudiedude on Feb 17
    1. me too - Daniel on Feb 17
      1. Re: me too - Alesport on Feb 17
        1. me too - mikey on Feb 18
    2. I agree - cool beans boi on Feb 18
    3. pants - J. on Feb 20
    4. sweats - Mikebear4ever31 on Jan 22
     
  19. Shorter Shorts? View Thread - Guy on Jul 26
    1. That's long for me - Jeffrey on Jul 26
      1. Long for Me - Guy on Jul 26
        1. Op's - shortshortsdc on Jan 21
     
  20. Low rise jeans View Thread - cool beans boi on Aug 24
    1. Re: Low rise jeans - Roadie on Aug 24
    2. Pubic Pants - J. on Aug 24
      1. Ad follow-up... - J. on Aug 24
        1. Thanks, J. - Roadie on Aug 24
        2. they are Italian, not French - . on Aug 24
        3. a runway photo - Roadie on Aug 25
        4. another photo - Roadie on Aug 25
          1. Fave - Damien on Aug 25
        5. a 3rd - Roadie on Aug 25
        6. and a 4th photo - Roadie on Aug 25
          1. Re: and a 4th photo - cool beans boi on Aug 26
      2. Levi Offenders - Jeffrey on Sep 6
    3. Imagine the cutoff's - Ray on Aug 26
      1. Re: Imagine the cutoff's - Roadie on Aug 26
        1. Cutoffs? I think not!! - Ken P. on Aug 27
        2. ULR Cut-off wearer sighted - Jeffrey on Sep 8
        3. cutoffs - Ricky on Sep 14
          1. Short Cutoffs - Ken P. on Sep 23
            1. short cutoffs - you'd probably look great in them - shortshortsdc on Jan 21
    4. Low rise jeans - NBD on Aug 26
      1. Re: Low rise jeans - timanu on Aug 27
        1. Low Rise - hungteenfb on Sep 1
          1. low rise - Ricky on Sep 3
          2. Re: Low Rise - Alexsport on Sep 6
     
  21. sagging freeballers View Thread - jeric on Oct 18
    1. Re: sagging freeballers - teen fb on Oct 18
      1. low-slung - Ricky on Oct 18
        1. Re: low-slung - jeric on Oct 19
          1. Re: low-slung - Marseil on Oct 20
    2. More skin - Jeffrey on Oct 19
      1. Offender Jeans - Ken P. on Oct 22
    3. Re: sagging freeballers - Buddy on Oct 19
      1. Male Brat Dolls - Jeffrey on Oct 19
    4. Re: sagging freeballer - Mikebear4ever31 on Jan 21
     
  22. freeball sighting View Thread - Anonymous on Oct 30
    1. grocery store - Ricky on Oct 30
    2. Black XS - Tom on Oct 31
      1. Very - Cycle guy on Nov 1
      2. Black XS - hegemony on Nov 6
        1. girls jeans - anon on Nov 7
          1. It's the only thing that fits me! - Steven W on Nov 7
            1. "boyish" - Jimmy on Nov 8
              1. 529's - Steven W on Nov 8
                1. A few pic's - Steven W on Nov 8
                  1. 5's - Jimmy on Nov 9
                    1. 529s - Ken P. on Nov 12
                      1. 529's vs 527's - Cycle guy on Nov 14
                        1. Re: 529's vs 527's - Ken P. on Nov 15
                        2. 9's vs 7's - Cycle guy on Nov 16
                      2. Re: 529s - Alexsport on Nov 16
    3. Bank Sighting - Tony on Nov 3
      1. Similar Situation - Benny Deal on Jan 20
    4. Guy at car lot - kansas city guy on Nov 5
      1. home depot - Ricky on Nov 5
        1. Caught - Cycle guy on Nov 7
      2. f/b in shorts - Tom on Nov 7
    5. Re: freeball sighting - Wylie on Dec 2
      1. Hooked on Crack - cali guy on Dec 3
    6. Best Buy - Mikebear4ever31 on Jan 21
     
  23. new superman movie View Thread - Alexsport on Jan 10
    1. Re: new superman movie - timanu on Jan 10
      1. Re: new superman movie - Jerry on Jan 10
        1. Re: new superman movie - timanu on Jan 11
    2. Re: new superman movie - MT Guy on Jan 10
    3. re: new superman movie - Mikebear4ever31 on Jan 21
     
  24. Any freeballing saggers View Thread - Calidawg on Apr 22
    1. I Always Wondered... - DALE. on Apr 22
      1. why i sag - Calidawg on Apr 22
      2. Saggers - FBSoFLA on Apr 23
    2. My take saggy jeans - Bobby F. on Apr 22
      1. I agree with Bobby - cool beans boi on Apr 22
      2. What the designer/maker intended - Jeffrey on Apr 22
        1. Re: What the designer/maker intended - Petetr on Apr 23
          1. My son - Jeffrey on Apr 23
      3. Funny Game - UnKut on Apr 22
      4. Re: My take saggy jeans - Alex on Apr 23
      5. ok.. ok - calidawg on Apr 23
        1. Hey calidawg, not everyone's upset.... - TC on Apr 23
    3. Re: Any freeballing saggers - Buddy on Apr 23
      1. Bare butt in high school pants - Bobby F. on Apr 23
    4. Re: Any freeballing saggers - Jamie on Apr 24
      1. I like to Freeball Bare Butt Sag.... - midi on Mar 15
    5. Sagger here too - CommandoPastor on Apr 2
    6. Sagger here too - CommandoPastor on Apr 2
    7. Sagger here too - CommandoPastor on Apr 2
      1. like to sag sometimes - Mikebear4ever31 on Jan 20
     
  25. Quick New Year Poll View Thread - Mac on Jan 7
    1. Re: Quick New Year Poll - Sthrncumf on Jan 7
    2. Re: Quick New Year Poll - james on Jan 8
    3. Re Poll - Ian on Jan 8
    4. Quick New Year Poll - hegemony on Jan 8
      1. Quick New Year Poll - hegemony on Jan 8
    5. Re: Quick New Year Poll - cool beans boi on Jan 8
    6. Re: Quick New Year Poll - AFwetcargos on Jan 8
    7. re: new year poll - leo on Jan 8
      1. re:poll - leo on Jan 8
    8. Re: Quick New Year Poll - Wylie on Jan 8
      1. No - Mac on Jan 8
      2. Re: Quick New Year Poll - Toby on Jan 9
    9. No Underwear . - Freesalvadorean . on Jan 9
    10. No underwear (Cont.). - Freesalvadorean . on Jan 9
    11. Re: Quick New Year Poll - UK Bryan on Jan 9
    12. Re: Quick New Year Poll - Alexsport on Jan 9
      1. Re: Quick New Year Poll - Alexsport on Jan 9
    13. Re: Quick New Year Poll - dave on Jan 9
    14. Re: Quick New Year Poll - Bobby on Jan 9
    15. RE: Quick New Year Poll - Balto48 on Jan 9
    16. re: Quick New Year Poll - mikebear4ever31 on Jan 20
      1. 6 pairs - freeballing pete on Jan 20
     
  26. What are your stats View Thread - Zack69 on May 9
    1. me - Daniel on May 9
    2. Re: What are your stats - Alexsport on May 10
    3. Re: What are your stats - Anonymous on May 10
      1. Re: What are your stats - mike on May 11
    4. Re: What are your stats - Sam on May 10
    5. Me - cool beans boi on May 10
    6. Re: What are your stats - Jeffrey on May 10
    7. ok - freeballing pete on May 10
    8. Stats - Takn on May 11
    9. RE: What are your stats - balto48 on May 11
    10. Stats - Trav on May 11
    11. Stats - RockyCdn on May 12
    12. Stats - Jarhead on May 12
    13. Stats - floridagrandad on May 12
    14. Re: What are your stats - Dennis on May 12
    15. Mine - Mikey on May 12
    16. My stats - Danny Boy on May 12
    17. Re: What are your stats - Jim on May 13
    18. Stats - J. on May 14
    19. Re: What are your stats - Toby on May 14
    20. Stats - Vincent on May 15
    21. My Stats - arkwetman on May 16
    22. Stats - Big balled dad on May 19
    23. Re: What are your stats - TW on May 27
    24. stats - Jim on Jun 8
    25. Re: Stats - organman on Nov 17
    26. my stats - Mikebear4ever31 on Jan 20
     
  27. What are you wearing right now? View Thread - Mark on Jun 5
    1. right now - Toby on Jun 6
      1. wearing? - Ian on Jun 6
      2. Re: right now - horse hung teen with low hangers on Jun 8
    2. Re: What are you wearing right now? - Greg on Jun 6
    3. What are you wearing right now? - Nudesunbather on Jun 6
    4. Re: What are you wearing right now? - Marseil on Jun 6
    5. What are you wearing right now? - Takn on Jun 6
    6. Re: What are you wearing right now? - Ken P. on Jun 6
    7. Re: What are you wearing right now? - mike on Jun 6
    8. Re: What are you wearing right now? - B on Jun 6
    9. Re: What are you wearing right now? - Bobby on Jun 6
    10. A PAIR OF TOPSIDERS AND A SMILE! - ucRodger on Jun 6
    11. Re: What are you wearing right now? - Wylie on Jun 6
    12. Re: What are you wearing right now? - cool beans boi on Jun 6
      1. Cool Beans ? - J on Jun 7
        1. Ready for a laugh ;o) - cool beans bo on Jun 7
          1. Cool Beans - J on Jun 7
            1. Re: Cool Beans - cool beans boi on Jun 7
              1. IS IT LOVE, or just "AN UNDERWEAR FETISH" ?!? - ucRodger on Jun 8
                1. Re: IS IT LOVE, or just "AN UNDERWEAR FETISH" ?!? - cool beans on Jun 8
                2. Re: IS IT LOVE, or just "AN UNDERWEAR FETISH" ?!? - J on Jun 8
                  1. IS IT LOVE... - ucRodger on Jun 9
                    1. Re: IS IT LOVE... - J on Jun 10
                      1. Is it ... - ucRodger on Jun 11
                  2. Re: IS IT LOVE, or just "AN UNDERWEAR FETISH" ?!? - cool beans boi on Jun 9
                    1. OOPS - Cool beans boi on Jun 9
    13. Not much - Mikey on Jun 6
    14. no underwear - freeballing pete on Jun 6
    15. now - Johny on Jun 7
    16. Re: What are you wearing right now? - Buddy on Jun 7
    17. Re: What are you wearing right now? - Alexport on Jun 7
      1. Re: What are you wearing right now? - Cool beans boi on Jun 7
        1. Re: What are you wearing right now? - Alexsport on Jun 8
    18. What are you wearing ritht now? - wab on Jun 7
    19. Wearing right now? - Arkwetman on Jun 7
    20. Wearing Now - Jarhead on Jun 8
    21. Re: What are you wearing right now? - james on Jun 12
    22. a towel and a smile! - NakedBudd on Jun 14
    23. Re: What are you wearing right now? - Ken on Jul 13
    24. re: what r you wearing? - mikebear4ever31 on Jan 20
     
  28. FB Survey View Thread - Part Timer on Jun 25
    1. FB Survey - ucRodger on Jun 26
    2. Re: FB Survey - Toby on Jun 26
    3. Re: FB Survey - Otmar on Jun 26
    4. Re: FB Survey - cool beans boi on Jun 26
      1. Re: FB Survey - Part Timer on Jun 26
        1. Re: FB Survey - cool beans boi on Jul 23
    5. Re: FB Survey - Wylie on Jun 26
    6. Re: FB Survey - Bobby on Jun 26
    7. Answers - Part Timer on Jun 26
    8. anything but especially boxers, no, nothing embarasses me, no SO - NakedBudd on Jun 26
    9. Survey response - arkwetman on Jun 27
      1. An embarassing moment recalled - arlwet,am on Jul 5
        1. Spare clothes - Nat on Jul 5
          1. Re: Spare clothes - cool beans boi on Jul 5
          2. Re: Spare clothes - Alexsport on Jul 5
            1. Re: Spare clothes - Nat on Jul 6
        2. Re: An embarassing moment recalled - cool beans boi on Jul 5
          1. very true CBB - arkwetman on Jul 6
    10. Re: FB Survey - ukfreeballer on Jun 27
    11. Re: FB Survey - Alexsport on Jun 27
    12. Re: FB Survey - Mikey on Jun 27
    13. Re: FB Survey - SEANekkid on Jun 28
    14. Re: FB Survey - dave on Jun 28
    15. freeballing - Daniel on Jun 29
    16. Response - Justin on Jun 30
    17. Re: FB Survey - Marseil on Jun 30
    18. Re: FB Survey - UK Bryan on Jul 3
    19. Survey Response - Jarhead on Jul 3
    20. Re: FB Survey - Ken on Jul 5
      1. to Ken - Alexsport on Jul 5
        1. cut-off~s - Johny on Jul 6
        2. Re: to Ken - Ken on Jul 10
    21. Re: FB Survey - Bennyboy on Jul 7
    22. Fb Survey - mikebear4ever31 on Jan 20
     
  29. PA's View Thread - Woofexec on Dec 11
    1. easy - steve on Dec 11
    2. Re: PA's - Pye on Dec 11
    3. Go for it - Henry on Dec 11
    4. Yes, go for it - Mike on Dec 11
      1. Re: Yes, go for it - Cool beans boi on Dec 12
        1. You are right! - Henry on Dec 12
          1. personal jewelry - cdadbr on Dec 13
          2. Confused sexuality - Jeffrey on Dec 14
          3. Re: You are right! - MJK on Dec 16
        2. Cool beans boi and Henry - Marseil on Dec 13
      2. can you elaborate? - kozy on Dec 14
        1. Info for Kozy re PA - Mike on Dec 17
          1. Re: Info for Kozy re PA - cool beans boi on Dec 18
            1. Cut vs uncut! - Mike on Dec 18
              1. Debates - Marseil on Dec 19
                1. No debate - Mike on Dec 20
            2. sensitivity reason - Johny on Dec 23
          2. Thanks - kozy on Dec 21
      3. The Big PA Debate - NudePreston on Dec 20
        1. size difference - kozy on Dec 21
          1. size difference - Tom on Dec 22
          2. Re: size difference - Mike on Dec 23
          3. Size system - Johny on Dec 23
            1. Another application of a size system - Marseil on Dec 24
          4. pa gauge - Benny Deal on Jan 20
    5. PA - Tony on Dec 12
    6. Frenum - Jeffrey on Dec 14
      1. PA's vs Frenum - MIke on Dec 18
    7. go for it - dave on Dec 16
      1. Agreed! - bb341 on Dec 17
        1. Re: Agreed! - cool beans boi on Dec 18
    8. does a PA go with a little dick? - NakedBudd on Dec 23
      1. Re: does a PA go with a little dick? - Mike on Dec 23
     
  30. Make your own low-rise jeans by.... View Thread - Blade on Nov 15
    1. reply: make your own - cali06 on Nov 16
      1. Surfer dude's - Cycle guy on Nov 16
        1. Butt Crack - Ken P. on Nov 20
          1. Re: Butt Crack - Jimmy on Nov 23
            1. Sez you.. :) - TC on Nov 23
      2. Hipsters - DaveUK on Nov 23
    2. Re: make your own... - mikebear4ever31 on Jan 20
     
 
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