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Boss 351 crankshaft?

December 27 2008 at 3:55 AM
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I finally got around to looking at the old crankshaft that came out of my 393 stroker, and noticed it has a 4MA casting mark on it. I thought all the "regular" ones just had 4M. Is this a Boss crank?

 
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tinman
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maybe Blizz has a pic?

December 27 2008, 8:54 AM 

4MA is a revised production crank, Boss cranks have a number starting with "D1ZX" i believe it is? electric pencil etched at the rear of the crank.

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The D1ZX was cast in

December 27 2008, 9:54 AM 

I've held one in my hot little hands !

 
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Re: The D1ZX was cast in

December 27 2008, 11:15 AM 

what was it then that was electro-graved in?

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D1ZX-A was...

December 27 2008, 7:28 PM 

hand stamped on a couuterweight near the front (#3 maybe). Those that passed the Brinell Hardness test were stamped. A Brinell hardness tester is
a specialty machine that non destructively tests metal hardness, The machine
has a screw jack that "adjusts" a probe to a "0" point on a pressure dial. A
lever that trips a timed release of pressure on the probe. A tattle tale on the pressure dial tells you what the hardness was/is. More exotic versions are digital and give a digital readout. There are many different tip daimeters on the probes for different metals. There are also at least 3 different scales used in hardness testing. A is seldom used, B is used for aluminum and others, while C is typically used for steels and iron.
Cranks without the D1ZX-A that have the domple simply weren't hard enough
for the D1ZX-A specification and weren't stamped.
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Re: Boss 351 crankshaft?

December 27 2008, 11:20 AM 

IIRC, the boss cranks were just 4MA cranks that tested as having better than average hardness......nothing I'd pay extra for, especially considering the relatively low cost of 4340 cranks these days.

 
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Re: Boss 351 crankshaft?

December 27 2008, 2:08 PM 

many cranks were tested to qualify at spec, not all tested were assembled into Boss engines. my first Clev had the test mark in a 2V.

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AJ
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What does the test mark look like?

December 27 2008, 2:26 PM 

And where is it?

 
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4MA B

December 27 2008, 2:47 PM 

so what was the 4MA B crank?i have seen them with a small m/c pad near the number on the front c/w ,and have seen what looks like a brinell ballbearing mark on this small pad . is this anything?

 
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IIRC

December 27 2008, 2:56 PM 

it's a small spot ground smooth on the front counterweight?

with a center punch looking indentation in it. the diameter of the punch mark indicates the resistance or hardness of the metal when compared to the test scale.

http://www.instron.us/wa/applications/test_types/hardness/brinell.aspx?ref=http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=AgUOPlMLc9eiUGDNsN8nYOimN3wV

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Re: IIRC

December 27 2008, 3:22 PM 

so It is a brinell mark. but what is the "B"

 
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what's the B

December 27 2008, 3:27 PM 

it's a further production revision

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An old Ford parts guy once told me it was simply refering to "brinell"

December 27 2008, 4:41 PM 

n/m

 
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they probably cast D1ZX in it because

December 27 2008, 5:06 PM 

It used a nodular flywheel and unique damper . the boss had 27.3 oz-in imbalance as opposed to the normal 28.2 . that likely explains the DIZX scratched in the back of the block as well ,so the assembly line personnel would know what to stick in it .

 
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Re: they probably cast D1ZX in it because

December 27 2008, 5:31 PM 

I have one, or that what I ws told, I know it had a Brinell mark, will take a pic, also have matching dampner. I do not remember any D1ZX numbers, will ck.....Tim

 
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