dMay 23 2005 at 8:27 AM
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Good Morning,
My 430 block is being rebuilt right now. I got the call from the speed shop and he tells me that I need new pistons, rings, bearings and of course, a full head job.
We discussed buying the rebuild kit (with all those parts and more) from Egge but I would like some input from you folks.
I had the fuel pump and intake manifold polished. I will post photos soon, your gonna love them.
Feel free to give any advice on increasing the horsepower with the new components.
Thanks in advance,
Pinermel
time for the rebuild
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Re: time for the rebuild
OEM Or Speed Parts?No score for this post May 23 2005, 11:50 PM
EGGE is going to be the best source for STOCK ENGINE PIECES. Forged pistons are available, although at a higher cost.
You have all the nice pieces as for heads and induction. If the rods are redone professionally and all the machine work done professionally, you should come out with a really nice engine.
You might consider a cam regrind to bring it up to modern spec. The FE valvetrain (either adjustable rocker arms or even aftermarket roller rockers and stands) will mostly interchange if you are short on options there.
There is a lot of information interspersed on this page. Anything you cannot find, just ask.
If not too nostalgic, a F/4/S would make a nice finishing touch...
EGGE is going to be the best source for STOCK ENGINE PIECES. Forged pistons are available, although at a higher cost.
You have all the nice pieces as for heads and induction. If the rods are redone professionally and all the machine work done professionally, you should come out with a really nice engine.
You might consider a cam regrind to bring it up to modern spec. The FE valvetrain (either adjustable rocker arms or even aftermarket roller rockers and stands) will mostly interchange if you are short on options there.
There is a lot of information interspersed on this page. Anything you cannot find, just ask.
If not too nostalgic, a F/4/S would make a nice finishing touch...
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Re: time for the rebuild
May 24 2005, 9:27 PM
the speed shop is confused...
I got a call from my engine rebuilder today and he has questions concerning this block. His crank shop measures the crank as a 383 size. Is it possible that Dear ol' Dad put this crank into this block to get higher RPM's?
I need to know that this is indeed a 430 (Super Maurader??) so that I can make the right choices on this rebuild.
If it is true that the 430 puts out 400hp I think that I would be happy with the stock rebuild kit. I find myself playing catch-up on this forum. I had to shelve the car for a few months to get this house livable. It feels good to have the wrenches in the hands again.
Hey Kultulz, I like the idea of putting in the F/4/S. Any leads on one? Should I call the boneyards or my NAPA?
I owe youz some photos and I am sure to put them up very soon. You guys are gonna love the polished intake and fuel pump.
Thanks in advance for your help and knowledge.
the speed shop is confused...
I got a call from my engine rebuilder today and he has questions concerning this block. His crank shop measures the crank as a 383 size. Is it possible that Dear ol' Dad put this crank into this block to get higher RPM's?
I need to know that this is indeed a 430 (Super Maurader??) so that I can make the right choices on this rebuild.
If it is true that the 430 puts out 400hp I think that I would be happy with the stock rebuild kit. I find myself playing catch-up on this forum. I had to shelve the car for a few months to get this house livable. It feels good to have the wrenches in the hands again.
Hey Kultulz, I like the idea of putting in the F/4/S. Any leads on one? Should I call the boneyards or my NAPA?
I owe youz some photos and I am sure to put them up very soon. You guys are gonna love the polished intake and fuel pump.
Thanks in advance for your help and knowledge.
Re: time for the rebuild
25 2005, 12:10 AM
383? May
I can't imagine what your dad was thinking. Actually, the 383 and 430 use the same block. Maybe he found a 383 cheap and put the SUPER MARAUDER intake on it?
Maybe look around and find a 430 crank? The SUPER MARAUDER was rated at 400HP. I believe EGGE has crank kits. The 383 will get it down the road, but a 430 will make it scream.
The F/4/S is the TOPLAODER. It is unbreakable. I have one here from a '73 COUGAR 351C CJ (with factory HURST shifter). They come in various lengths (measure your present 3/S) and give me overall length. Is yours (3/S) synchro in first gear or is it a slider?
It may be that your machine shop can get you a crank kit and that would leave only pistons and rings you would have to come through with (usually the machine shop can get parts cheaper than you can).
Have you decided on cast or forged pistons
383? May
I can't imagine what your dad was thinking. Actually, the 383 and 430 use the same block. Maybe he found a 383 cheap and put the SUPER MARAUDER intake on it?
Maybe look around and find a 430 crank? The SUPER MARAUDER was rated at 400HP. I believe EGGE has crank kits. The 383 will get it down the road, but a 430 will make it scream.
The F/4/S is the TOPLAODER. It is unbreakable. I have one here from a '73 COUGAR 351C CJ (with factory HURST shifter). They come in various lengths (measure your present 3/S) and give me overall length. Is yours (3/S) synchro in first gear or is it a slider?
It may be that your machine shop can get you a crank kit and that would leave only pistons and rings you would have to come through with (usually the machine shop can get parts cheaper than you can).
Have you decided on cast or forged pistons
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Re: time for the rebuild
May 25 2005, 8:31 AM
cast or forged??
I try to not sound like a knucklehead but sometimes I can't avoid it. Can you tell me the benifits of using one type of piston over the other?
I am stopping by the machine shop this morning and I will have my guy sit tight till I get all of my information together from you folks. I really want to do this right as I thiking the '57 T-bird (and me) deserves as much horsepower as is possible.
Do you think that it is a good idea to purchace the rebuild kit or just the pistons, crank, valves, rings and bearings seperately? I will discuss this more with my rebuilder today too.
Thanks again...
cast or forged??
I try to not sound like a knucklehead but sometimes I can't avoid it. Can you tell me the benifits of using one type of piston over the other?
I am stopping by the machine shop this morning and I will have my guy sit tight till I get all of my information together from you folks. I really want to do this right as I thiking the '57 T-bird (and me) deserves as much horsepower as is possible.
Do you think that it is a good idea to purchace the rebuild kit or just the pistons, crank, valves, rings and bearings seperately? I will discuss this more with my rebuilder today too.
Thanks again...
Re: time for the rebuild
May 25 2005, 11:06 PM
Forged Pistons VS Cast
The forged piston will give you more durability, especially in a blown or nitrous application. I don't know how hard you plan to run your BIRD with the new engine, but forged gives you a lot more leeway in fuel mixture and timing events. But you also have to take into consideration the added cost.
Previous Thread Regarding Pistons;
http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?f ... 1060788760
Forged Pistons VS Cast
The forged piston will give you more durability, especially in a blown or nitrous application. I don't know how hard you plan to run your BIRD with the new engine, but forged gives you a lot more leeway in fuel mixture and timing events. But you also have to take into consideration the added cost.
Previous Thread Regarding Pistons;
http://www.network54.com/Forum/thread?f ... 1060788760
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Re: time for the rebuild
May 26 2005, 8:25 PM
You might check out these guys, not sure if they are any good, but they say they have 383/430/462 pistons. Reasonable price $385 or so.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... eName=WD1V
You might check out these guys, not sure if they are any good, but they say they have 383/430/462 pistons. Reasonable price $385 or so.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayI ... eName=WD1V
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Re: time for the rebuild
Whoops guess about $320, can't remember thing for more than 5 min anymore i guess, lol.
Re: time for the rebuild
May 27 2005, 12:13 AM
Thanks For The Source!
Every bit helps...
Thanks For The Source!
Every bit helps...
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Re: time for the rebuild
May 24 2005, 10:37 PM
Turnpike Cruiser??
I remember a family friend mentioning hearing from Pop's that this is a Turnpike Cruiser. Any thoughts on that??
Thanks again,
Mel
Turnpike Cruiser??
I remember a family friend mentioning hearing from Pop's that this is a Turnpike Cruiser. Any thoughts on that??
Thanks again,
Mel
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