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Pix of hogged C0AE-D heads

December 20 2008 at 3:50 PM

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I never had taken pix of these but since I am gaoing through the mill I remembered to snap a few. Many folks here know the car, a '58 Custom that was set up for AHRA modified stock back in '66 with a 352. They allowed certain head mods but no porting. Seems silly what they did allow. These used to have small chambers. Now they measure 69.6ccs. Those are 2.19" and 1.66' valves. Now, look close. The heads were relieved for the valves, but they were relieved all the way out to the gasket edge. No problem on a 427, right? But this engine has a 4.03" bore, so the relieved area hangs over the cylinder wall. I dunno, seems to me that some 2"&1.55" valves and less chamber work would have beem better. Especially with the tri-power. BTW, the exhaust valves would touch the cylinder walls when the engine was warm. I had to have the walls notched.
Anyways, some history.
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Re: Pix of hogged C0AE-D heads

December 20 2008, 4:14 PM 

Nice to hear you're back under way on this car. Back in July you told me that you were going to pick a "snotty" cam for this motor. I searched under snotty in several cam catalogs and came up empty. Obviously, I overlooked something. Can you clue me? [linked image]

 
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Here's the deal.

December 20 2008, 4:23 PM 

The old Erson 515H that came with the car has been out for a while. As it sat, it developed a little surface rust in some areas. I figger that I can't use it now, so I need a replacement. The specs are .535 lift, 308 gross duration, 111 LSA. Had a nice bumpy idle. I'm looking for something similar so's I don't have to buy new springs.

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Re: Here's the deal.

December 20 2008, 4:35 PM 

Comp 280H will bump in a 352. Five hundred and thirty thousandths lift and two hundred thirty degrees at fifty thousandths.

Did you try to remove the surface rust with fine emery or sumpin'?

 
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I didn't know if that would be cool.

December 20 2008, 4:40 PM 

I could take some pix and post them tomorrow. Maybe the cam could be saved. It's just that the lifters are lost, so I would have to break in new lifters.

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Re: I didn't know if that would be cool.

December 20 2008, 4:43 PM 

Well, in that case get all new. May have less reversion than the Erson stick. You know what to do with the old cam, don't you? NaCl bath...

 
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The Persuader!

December 20 2008, 4:48 PM 

Keep on in each vehicle.

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Re: The Persuader!

December 20 2008, 4:52 PM 

"But honest, officer, it's for a rat rod I'm building!" [linked image]

 
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Aren't those Yates heads??

December 20 2008, 4:31 PM 

What's old is new again.

 
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Watcho talkin' 'bout, Willis

December 20 2008, 4:38 PM 

I have no info on these. I thought they were done at Grant Piston Service in Alhambra (now defunct) along with the engine in 1966. What did Yates do with FEs?

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Re: Watcho talkin' 'bout, Willis

December 20 2008, 4:41 PM 

Looks like Yates got his later designs from your heads.

 
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Oh, the general shape of the chamber.

December 20 2008, 4:44 PM 

His stuff goes faster.

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Yates

December 20 2008, 4:46 PM 

His stuff may go faster, but it's not nearly as kool. [linked image]

 
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Program

December 20 2008, 4:57 PM 

What's the rest of the bumper-to-bumper, for those unfamiliar with this beastie? Still got pics (dumb ?, natch)

 
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I still have a webpage

December 21 2008, 9:55 AM 

This is something I threw together to test my Ebay auction text.

http://www.freewebs.com/58custom/index.htm

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Very nice car

December 21 2008, 12:49 PM 

thanks for sharing again. I remember enjoying that web page when you were selling it, a real time capsule.

Gary B

 
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Bill Ballinger
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Butchery. Too bad,lissen, they are just junk, my address is...

December 20 2008, 8:24 PM 

I'll dispose of them properly happy.gif I have a .060 over 390 that those would go right on happy.gif BWAAHAAA HAAA HA! In my dreams. I have wanted a set of those again since the '70's.

 
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Leggo my Eggo!

December 21 2008, 1:35 PM 

Look for some stock ones, though.

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Hey Tom,

December 21 2008, 2:29 PM 

I saw your 58 On Ebay a few times for sale with a 460 style engine. Did it ever sell, or are you gonna keep the car now?

428 powered Fairmont drag car, Best ET:10.03@132.11MPH, best 60 ft: 1.29
59 Meteor 2 dr. sedan 332, Ford O Matic
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It sold once but the guy backed out claiming his basement flooded.

December 21 2008, 6:07 PM 

A real car guy would have handed his wife a hand pump and hit the road with the cash. Anyways, the auction had too much stuff in it. I'm gonna put the car back how it was when I bought it, back to being the vintage racer it was. Then it will go back to Ebay.

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Those things were neat. Usualy a '63 Galaxie 390 wagon would have them

December 21 2008, 5:08 PM 

They didn't have the machined spring cups, but were the little chambers and a C3AE number. I used to grab every pair I could get. A few years ago, a guy had a '70's mutt truck for sale with a set of C0AE-Ds on it that he said pinged like crazy without race gas. He wouldn't part with just the motor,and I couldn't afford the truck.

 
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