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Ford 427 FE CAM identification

December 14 2008 at 8:49 AM
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Hey guys

I could use some help identifying this cam.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=160304376669&ih=006&sspagename=STRK%3AMEWA%3AIT&viewitem=

I am building a vintage 65 side oiler with medium rise heads for a cobra replica. The SF 63 stamp on this cam (being from Shelby MS) throws me. I checked my Shelby registry and it says nothing about "SF" on the cams for the 427 cars.

Help me out here?

Thanks

dan

 
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Royce
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Shelby logo from the seventies on the box

December 14 2008, 9:51 AM 

Those cams were sold through Honest Charley's, Gratiot Auto Supply, JC Penneys automotive, Vic Hubbard Speed and Marine among others. If somebody has a catalog from one of them maybe it would say something. The numbers on the cam may only identify the blank. I wonder if there is a part number on the box?

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Royce, that logo goes farther back than the 70's

December 14 2008, 11:46 AM 

Shelby used that logo before he left Ford and it became the primary logo in 68. Hawkrod

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Hawkrod, youre correct,

December 14 2008, 2:22 PM 

that logo is from Autosport Products,debuted in nov. 69 (licenced by Carroll Shelby...NOT part of his companys)..was used thru spring of 73, when Ford folded the Muscle Parts program, the two brothers who owned Autosports closed their operations in Ca. and Mi.. I was in the same bldg. as they were and lined up a sale, parts and name, to Gratiot Auto Supply of ALL inventory, Gratiots owner, Angelo Giampetroni, sold large quantities to other speed shops, and continuied to buy cams from Camshaft Machine Co...selling them as CSShelby parts, thru late 70s....Camshaft Machine is a whole other post sometime...themade everybodys cams..crower monarch/crane fireball/general kinetics redline/trw/dana/etc.etc ALL had a .500/324 cam for FE, plus many others....They were purchased by CRANE CAMS a few years ago....

 
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Royce
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Wow I was way off LOL!

December 15 2008, 4:39 AM 

Started being used in November 1969..... That's 60 days before the 1970's. I was WAY off base obviously. My sincerest apologies to all who were affected by this horrendous misstatement of fact.

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1913 Model T Ford Touring original Black paint
1915 Model T Ford Roadster Black
1915 Model T Ford touring Black of course!
1967 Cougar GT 390 Cardinal Red / Black
1968 Cougar GTE 427 Augusta Green / Saddle
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SF-63 was

December 14 2008, 11:55 AM 

a popular cam casting...used on, but not limited too, the Fomoco C4AE-B / C8AX-C / C8AX-D and numerous CS Shelby (Autosport Products) cams...I have listings from Camchaft Machine Co.(the mfg.),late 60s /early 70s vintage, with all the #s and conversion to DANA/SEALED POWER/MELLINGS/TRW etc...I think Dave Shoe copied them several years ago ???

 
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Bill Ballinger
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I have a number of used SF-63 cams, but they were just plain

December 14 2008, 3:36 PM 

No other branding on them. I pulled one out of a 360 that was so doggy it wouldn't pull smoke off a turd. I figured it was just a core blank number, is it of any other significance?

 
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pmw
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SF - 63

December 15 2008, 7:32 AM 

I bought a " New " SF-63 cam from a guy in the 80s it was also stamped C4AW-B and had another number and corporate logo stamped in it as well , the cam was supposeed to be a " Racer Brown " cheater cam with the C4AW-B lift and duration . I could never find a racer brown catalog to verify what it was but I did find a pic of a racer brown SBC cam and it did have the same Racer Brown corporate symbol stamped in it

 
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Vic Hubbard ??

December 14 2008, 6:27 PM 

Back in the 70s, In Oakland???? I think. What was the other speed shop in South San Fransico on El Camino? Are they still alive? Damn I guess I am getting old!

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Vic Hubbard ...

December 14 2008, 6:55 PM 

is still in business in Hayward. The other speedshop you asked about may be Champion Speed shop in S. San Fran.

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RJP
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I'd avoid it....

December 14 2008, 9:55 AM 

You can do much better by buying a new cam from any of the name brand cam manufactures. Cam technology has come along way from when that Shelby[?]cam was made.

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The price is too high regardless of the spec, JMO, .........n/m

December 14 2008, 11:37 AM 

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I believe the original price....

December 14 2008, 12:41 PM 

was $29.95 from Gratiot. I have an old flyer from Gratiot listing Shelby cams. I'll try to look it up.
KS

 
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Pippin
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Oh, but you get what appear to be USED valve springs with it... LOL!

December 14 2008, 1:45 PM 


I would not bother with it for that price. Modern springs, cam and get and 427 shell lifters from DSC (Link page above), or Survivalmotorsports.com is what you should do.

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