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December 10 2008 at 9:34 PM
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I'm just what you guys need, another member with WAY more questions than answers............
I currently have a 428 in my 76 f-250 4X4. The 428 was in a 62 F-100 4X4 I purchased in 1978. I ran the part numbers and it seems to have all the right parts to be a CJ or possibly a SCJ due to the fact it had a lug on the dampener spacer that somehow got lost while it was stored. The numbers on the rods don't match either the CJ or SCJ tho.. I got the 428 out of storage a few years back rebuilt it and installed in the 76.

The machine shop balanaced it by removing meat from the flywheel and the motor is very smooth has about 40K miles on it with no vibration issues.

I also have a 58 Fairlane 500 2 dr. hardtop with a 300 horse 352 and cast iron Cruise O Matic.

I want to plant the 428 in the Fairlane and back it up with a C-6.

Do I NEED the Crank Lug?

Can I buy a flexplate that will work?

What harmonic balancer should I use?

Thanks, and sorry for the long first post...



    
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Balancing

December 10 2008, 9:38 PM 

If the machine shop balanced it without the "hatchet" that goes behind the balancer, adding it now would put it out of balance.

The problem is, "is there enough weight on a C-6 flexplate to copy what I assume was a manual tranny flywheel"

If they didnt touch anything else and only did the flywheel, AND you know it is an SCJ, you may be able to go with a 428 flexplate and SCJ hatchet, but its a guess at this point, we dont know exactly what the machinist did

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RWJ
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Balance

December 11 2008, 5:03 AM 

Since the motor was balanced without the hatchet and with a manual flywheel, I would take the flywheel and the flex plate to a machine shop and see if the flex plate could be balanced to the same as the flywheel. I would think it could be, RWJ

 
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I have done that same thing RWJ~

December 11 2008, 5:20 AM 

They should be able to do it without any problems. I did 2 standard Flywheels balanced to my 428 flexplate. Also I have done it with a 6.9 diesel from a standard flywheel to the C6 Automatic Flywheel. Boy are those damn things heavy! LOL.

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flexplate

December 11 2008, 5:33 AM 

I believe that a standard 428 flexplate comes with a 42 or 48 gram weight to begin with. Seems like the machine shop could match the balance of the flywheel vs flexplate. You would not be matching total weight anyway, just the balance.....I think

 
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Scott
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opps

December 11 2008, 7:55 AM 

Forgot to mention the Truck the engine is in has a 4 speed.
So I just need to have the machine shop ADD the amount of weight to a flex plate to equal the amount of weight REMOVED from the 4-speed flywheel....
Why didn't I think of that...

 
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Wrong!...

December 13 2008, 12:19 PM 

...the flywheels should be neutral balanced, if for no other reason than to make interchange easier. A 410/428 auto-trans flywheel was originally an off-set (external) balance. You need your machinist to add OR remove weight, IF necessary, to match the balance of the smooth running manual flywheel you have been using.

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