Are these two years the same? or interchangeble? I have found a 67 unit... but his price seems a little high, $400. what should i expect to pay for a clean one.

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1967 FE 390GT engine: 416 CID 233/238* @ 0.050 Solid Lifter w/ 4 spd TL.
1968 GT/CS Mustang. 289/c4
1995 Mercedes e320 I6 DOHC, 216 HP wagon.
2003 Tundra SR5, 4.7 DOHC, 4x4.
Another Galaxie (one day.)

Oh and a Bicycle - daily driver to save gas for the 'F'un 'E'xcursions.

1967

The 1967 model year was the first year for the tilt-away option, and columns for this year differ signifantly from those in the 68 and later years. The 67 columns incorporate a rigid, non-collapsible tube between the firewall and steering head. Attached to this shaft is the vacuum release servo which activates the tilt-away function, as well as a kill switch that prevents engine starting until the wheel is returned to normal driving position. An electric relay is remotely located under the dashboard and is connected to the accessory power terminal and a door position sensing switch located in the driver's door jamb. Retrofitting is a complicated and time consuming task. A potential swapper must first be sure that they have all the bits and pieces of a tilt-away mechanism, a task more difficult on the 67 by the fact that the parts are spread out under the dash. One of the most important pieces to secure is the unique, flexible bushing or "rag-joint" that connects the steering shaft to the steering gear ( just like 68 and up ) box. Unlike the rigid 67 steering column, tilt columns terminate in an unsplined semi-circular shaft that mates to the steering gear box via this unique tilt flexible bushing. The major problem with swapping 67 tilt-columns is the fact that non-tilt-columns connect directly to the steering gear box ( as with the 65 and 66 models ) whereas tilt-wheel equipped Mustangs employ the 68 and up style separate steering gear box. To retrofit a 67 tilt-wheel column into a non-tilt-wheel Mustang, a complete swapping of the steering gear box is also required. As you might expect, this is no small undertaking and requires the partial disassembly of both the exhaust and brake systems.

1968-1969

With the exception of the size of the emergency flasher knob, the 68 and 69 tilt-columns are identical in appearance. Steering columns for these 2 years are built around a collapsible safety shaft. As a result, the vacuum and electrical apparatus required for the automatic tilt-away are no longer mounted on the steering column as they were in 67. Instead, in both years, this equipment is mounted on a bracket that bolts to the dashboard below and behind the ignition switch. The 68-69 tilt columns also incorporate an access door in the steering head at the base of the dual function turn signal-adjustment lever. The tilt-wheel wiring harness is different from the harness in the standard column. There is also a different system of cancelling the turn signals as well. The 68-69 tilt-column utilizes a circular piece of plastic that snaps to the back of the steering wheel to cancel the turn signal switch. If this is missing, the turn signal will not cancel automatically.
Make sure you have the rag joint too.

Production figures - Mustangs
1967 2.7% = 10,651
1968 2.7% = 9,320
1969 3.2% = 8,812

copied from Mustang Monthly article May 1985

Dale

PS: I rescued a 69 tilt-column from a coupe in a salvage yard about 15 years ago. Sold it for $250 after a restoration. Not sure about current values.

It is a common misconception that 68 and 69 columns are the same but they are actually very different. The indexing slot for the mounting bracket is in a different location and the lower mount stop is different as well as one has two humps and the other has one. The 67-69 emergency flasher knobs are all the same but many people mistake broken off originals as being later ones. When they break they leave a philips head screw showing and so it does not appear to have broken. Also, on 67 tilts some have an access door and some do not as it was a running change. and not all 67 mustangs have a one piece steering shaft, early non tilt cars do but later cars can be either way. Hawkrod

Hawkrod

39 Ford Deluxe Coupe
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60 Lincoln Premier
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My early non tilt car has the two piece with the rag joint. Is it because it is a GT? Thanks
John

The rag joint was introduced in all 1967 Mustangs after about 30 days of production in September - early October 1966.

What is the actual build date of your car?



1912 Model T Ford touring Salmon (ugh!)
1913 Model T Ford Touring original Black paint
1915 Model T Ford Roadster Black
1915 Model T Ford touring Black of course!
1967 Cougar GT 390 Cardinal Red / Black
1968 Cougar GTE 427 Augusta Green / Saddle
http://www.supermotors.net/vehicles/registry/15029/50071-2

I understand the solid shaft was in early cars EXCEPT all 390's and any engine with tilt got a two piece.

I've found in other cars like 62 to 64 Fairlanes they can be either way, some have a rag joint, some don't. 6 or V8 doesn't seem to matter.

I sold it for $150 with the complete tilt wiring harness. It was very clean. I got tired of it being in my way. I probably sold it too cheap but I wouldn't pay $400 for a 67 tilt column, more like $200-$250 would be more like it. The one I sold required the rag joint steering box end which I didn't have. The end on the steering column is different than most stock non-tilt units.

My friends 67 GT500 was in a body shop and they needed to push the car around. Someone was combo Steering/Pushing === Crunch went the tilt big time!

tilt column (old hotrod favorite) would be a simpler conversion!



I have long legs and either I temporarity install my Grant steering wheel (smaller then stock) Or i get a tilt column... Man why did I start with the Mustangs, Galaxies have much more leg room!











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1967 FE 390GT engine: 416 CID 233/238* @ 0.050 Solid Lifter w/ 4 spd TL.

1968 GT/CS Mustang. 289/c4

1995 Mercedes e320 I6 DOHC, 216 HP wagon.

2003 Tundra SR5, 4.7 DOHC, 4x4.

Another Galaxie (one day.)



Oh and a Bicycle - daily driver to save gas for the 'F'un 'E'xcursions.

I have a 67 Tilt-away in my 68.Other than changing the plug on the t/signal harness is wasnt a big deal.I do have all the vacumn and electrical hooked up and working.As long as you have the rag joint it really isnt hard to figure out how to make the tilt-away work and there is actually a specific little book on all three years..
I showed my car for ten years and no one ever noticed it was the wrong column..Most people were just impressed that the tilt-away worked when you opened the door...

Cory

68 Mustang Fastback 427 5spd (owned since 77)
67 Mustang coupe T/A clone (W.I.P)
1936 Diamond T
92 F250 7.3 4x4

.........space and without the 'wall of chasity', a.k.a. the console, it easily 'accomodates' four at the local submarine races, LOL, Rod.

Mickey Thompson's 63 1/2 #997 S/S Hi-Rise 427 Lgt/Wgt Galaxie,
1957 C-600 Cab-over carhauler w/390-4V, 2-speed rear-end
FGCofA member #4908
MCGC member #75

"There will ALWAYS be an FE in my LiFE"

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1967 FE 390GT engine: 416 CID 233/238* @ 0.050 Solid Lifter w/ 4 spd TL.
1968 GT/CS Mustang. 289/c4
1995 Mercedes e320 I6 DOHC, 216 HP wagon.
2003 Tundra SR5, 4.7 DOHC, 4x4.
Another Galaxie (one day.)

Oh and a Bicycle - daily driver to save gas for the 'F'un 'E'xcursions.

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Mickey Thompson's 63 1/2 #997 S/S Hi-Rise 427 Lgt/Wgt Galaxie,
1957 C-600 Cab-over carhauler w/390-4V, 2-speed rear-end
FGCofA member #4908
MCGC member #75

"There will ALWAYS be an FE in my LiFE"