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Ghost of Holley Past

December 1 2008 at 4:39 PM
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There was some talk here a while back about the merits of the now-defunct Holley 4010/4011 series carbs. It seems as though Summit thinks enough of it to have resurrected the design under what appears to be a private label deal with Holley.

http://store.summitracing.com/egnsearch.asp?N=400304+332701+115&autoview=sku

Any seen one of these in the wild yet? Is it possible that two of them might fit on the new 8V intake from Edelbrock?

 
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Wes Adams Ford428CJ
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Now thats coooooool!!!!~

December 1 2008, 5:29 PM 

I have a few of them including a 800cfm Spread bore. I love those carbs. Easy and very few gaskets. I love those Damn Carbs. Thanks for sharing!!!

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Bobby Spears
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Re: Now thats coooooool!!!!~

December 1 2008, 5:56 PM 

Do the tops come off like the 4100 autolites?It looks like they do in the picture.That would make jet changing much faster with less mess.

 
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Tom P
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new 4010

December 1 2008, 5:59 PM 

I wonder if they are just old stock released for sale? There were thousands of new ones at Portland swap meet several years ago.

No way they'd fit end to end on the new Edelbrock, i'd doubt they'd fit on any normal Holley pattern dual quad because of the fuel inlet position and end of bowl looks 1/4" longer than a 4160 style.

 
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FElony
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Re: new 4010

December 1 2008, 6:37 PM 

Look at the new top plates; they have Summit on them. Would they do that with old stock? Maybe, huh?

I'm figuring the target is Edelbrock's reputation for plug-and-play carbs. It would make sense for Summit to use a proven "less troublesome" design, without having to tool up anew, to make a dent in the E-bok market.

Also see that Summit has released their own brand of basic aluminum manifolds that are not rebranded Professional Products (offshore cast) items.

 
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Bill Ballinger
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I ran a 4010 for awhile, and they are a good carb

December 1 2008, 6:59 PM 

They never caught on though with the traditional Holley crowd. The one I had was absolutely trouble free. Set the floats, and the accellerator pump and it was on. The 750 was perfect for a 400 inch engine out of the box.

 
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Sounds like

December 1 2008, 5:57 PM 

you really like those carbs Wes...

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Bob Sprowl
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So do I.

December 1 2008, 6:16 PM 

The gasket kits are hard to find however. With Summit selling the carbs, maybe they'll carry the gasket kits.

Yes they are very similar to the old Autolite carbs. The venturi boosters even interchange.

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I sure do like those carbs!~

December 2 2008, 4:44 PM 

How did you know that!? LOL They do work good and easy to work on. Not that they need to be. Very simple with performance in mind! JMHO

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dual 30cc accelerator pump!?...n/m

December 1 2008, 6:36 PM 

n/m

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i have one

December 1 2008, 7:09 PM 

a 750 D.P. on the 410 in my 58, excellent carb.

 
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Re: Ghost of Holley Past

December 1 2008, 7:47 PM 

Wow.....already a nice design, and it has removable IFRs (and there's a IFR kit available)

I had a 4010 600 back in the day...sure was nice to rejet without spilling fuel.

 
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Good carb - glad to see someone try it again

December 2 2008, 6:24 AM 

I have a 84011 750 in a box somewhere. The only thing that's a little weird about them is that the accel pump shooters are part of the booster assembly, just like a 4100. So if you have to modify them, you have to solder up the tubes and re-drill. Also the bowl inlets use a special semi-banjo fitting. Other than that, they are really a 4100 that uses Holley parts. I put one on a 351C-4V with a dual plane intake, small cam and a tight street converter - the carb drove really nice and metered fuel very well. The Falcon weighed about 3400 lbs ready to race and ran 8.40s in the 1/8 mile with that setup. People would look at the carb and scratch their heads. And I think that was the demise of the carb - it was a Holley "but dat thing dere don' look like no holley" .

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Detail possible?

December 2 2008, 12:21 PM 

Can you give a few more details about the 67 351c car?
Trans (c4?) rear, tires, open headers? cam? intake?
Otherwise a stock 351/"300" Cleveland?

60ft and 1/8 mph?

I would like to "gonk" the combo to see if the Holley was doing its job.

or, did you happen to run a comparision vs say a Holley 4779 double pumper?

I've never run the 4010 but always wanted to - I read several dyno tests where it was down on power vs a same-cfm 4150 model. Maybe this is why it fizzled - and 4100 Autolites were dirt cheap at the time so no great demand there either.

Today the timing might be right, especially if it can match the et/mph of the 4150 Holley.

 
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I hope they re-pop the 2 barrels too...

December 2 2008, 8:53 AM 

...as it might be fun to use a multitude of them in some sotra sick way!

 
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Bill Ballinger
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Beehaive TBD!

December 2 2008, 9:52 AM 

I know what you have in mind and yes its sick, good and sick I tell ya' . I would like to have pictures if you don't mind.

 
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Barry Gaugler
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I liked them carbs a lot.

December 2 2008, 5:09 PM 

They didn't leak and were easy to tune. Experimented with two on "Spooky" and ran one on Cecile's car for years. As a matter of fact - she got the best fuel economy with one of them. I think I still have one, or two out in the garage.

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