The Martin mars water bomber is a converted WW2 U.S. Navy flying boat from up here in BC was down there for a least a couple of months leased by the CDF. It's a monster that puts out fires not contains them like ground based aircraft. Really cool airplane for us gearheads!
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I'll pray for you Marty. May the good Lord bless your family, your home and your neighborhood, and keep you all safe.
I saw on the news today, a DC-10 converted to carry flame retardant. I've seen plenty of helicopters and prop planes converted for fire fighting, but not a jet. Looked like they had it fighting fire outside the northern city limits of Los Angeles.
I hear John Force's race shop is right in the middle of the current fire and it's burned cars in the body shop next to it. Those are pretty densely populated areas for a fire.
Hopefully the Martians can fly in there and end the fires.
the Cal.Dept. of Forestry did not/will not/can not certify that plane.
It's wrapped up in red tape.
The manufactor flew it in for a show and tell a few years ago and scooped water out of one of the lakes,in flight.
The fire fighter wanted it now,the bean counters/safety crats FREAKED! WHAT ABOUT THE FISH!!!
So that was it,back to Canada with you!
My Aunt and Uncle lost thier home in Bradberry back in the 80's.I will never forget getting off the 210 and looking up Mt.Olive drive and still seeing thier house! Then driving up the hill and seeing the roof was gone,then driving up the driveway and seeing only the outside stucko was standing! It was just a stock shell.Heres the wierd thing the trees around the house didn't burn,only the house.The other wierd thing was two of my uncles model rocket were on the fireplace mantel untouched,the little plastic parachutes and string didn't burn either,fire is very wierd.BTW house had a wood shake roof and was gone and burned out in less than 15 minutes!
Sorry for the bad story.
I'll pray for you and your family.
California has its head up its duff. They seem to act like a fire is a surprise, and are always scrambling to catch up. It is almost like they are trying to create work for the housebuilders. How hard is it to have fire tankers on patrol 24/7? They leaze a converted WWII airplane? Why don't they have their own fleet of ultra modern airplanes? It is not like they have to go far to find an airplane manufacturer. How hard is it to clear out dead underbrush? How hard is it to fireproof roofs? I bet there are a thousand premptive things they could do.
Christmas '64 for me. The tree went up like a roman candle. Every body got out in time, what else counts.
Easier said than done, but certainly a valid point
November 16 2008, 7:12 AM
First, the area is huge, monitoring every inch is unreasonable.
Its like monitoring the border to Mexico, how can you watch everywhere at once?
Also, keeping a standing guard of airplanes is amazingly expensive in training, manning, maintenance. A single state can't do it, even a big one.
However, you have a very good point on the fireproofing, I dont know if there are rules, I am not from CA, however, they should have fire trenches, fire fences, flameproof external materials, etc as a requirement for new builds in the "hot spots" if they dont already.
Its a tough one, last year I was in charge of the employment of multiple AF reconnaissance aircraft to the fires, we put some serious capability to help out, and it worked well, but no easy answer to get the fire put out once a spark sets one off.
An interesting thing I learned about fire and roofs
November 16 2008, 7:26 AM
Think about how hard it would be to drop a ember on a asphault roof and get the shingles to burn. However take a good strong breeze and blow embers at the side of a house and/or have fire burn up along near the side of a home and the embers get carried by convection up under the eave vents where they get blown on and encoured to glow/flame and dumped into the inside of the roof with the exposed very dry wood and dust....
to you. MAN, that is so scary!
As one that almost lost my house-- and did lose over 30 years of Mustang parts-- to a fire, I know what a terrible feeling it is.
I was in Laguna in 90 when the whole place went up. We lived on top of a ridge and the house filled with smoke from the Laguna fire below, and out our east facing windows we watched the 40 mile long Ortega front burning up the mountain side. There is nothing more ominous than the feeling of loading up all of your pictures and critical things in the truck and driving away from your home, not knowing if you will ever see it again. My home was spared, but many were not.
We're praying for you and all of the Californians there right now.
And yes, there are strict fireproofing standards, including roofing, siding, etc. But a fast moving brush fire in densely treed areas can't be stopped by a concrete roof. The fire is hot enough to ignite a couch inside a house without even entering the house, simply by burning hot outside a window. Closing heavy drapes sometimes helps, sometimes not. California has made strides in fire protection, but with heavy winds and dry forests, there's not much you can do. If you've never visited a California forest and can't understand how dry they are, you can't understand why these things are so hard to control.
My house backs right up to deer canyon above the festival shopping center. That was a bit too close for comfort!
I watched many homes in Yorba Linda go up from my back yard. We were packed and ready to leave, at least I have the mustang project at my warehouse and not in my garage. I wonder which of the engine parts in my garage would have survived in a fire?