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TP vs Cammer

October 13 2008 at 3:32 PM
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Hi guys, I am new to this site. I have posted this on another site that I frequent, but you are definitly the guys to ask.

I have a 63 Galaxie 500 Convertable (org. a 390 car), and I want to put either a Cammer or a 427 TP in it. What are the pro's and con's of each? Which is more streetable, more reliable, and so on. Also, I have skills, but these are way over my head so I would prefer to purchase a unit ready to bolt in. I want the single 4 bbl set up and would like to keep it around 600 - 650 hp. What kind of costs would I be looking at? Your help, input and guidance would be appreciated.

Lastly, is there some good sites to point me to so I can read up on these engines?

Phil R.


    
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hey Phil

October 13 2008, 9:15 PM 

You will find the tunnel port much more cost effective and wrencher friendly than the cammer. glad to have you aboard. Bob

 
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Re: TP vs Cammer

October 13 2008, 9:20 PM 

For your stated use, your better off with a 4V Tunnel Port. A stroked 470"-480" Tunnel Port will make an EASY 600 hp. In fact, almost any modern stroked FE with Aluminum Heads on it that are reworked will make a little more or less at 10.5-1, with 1 4150 carb and a Hydraulic Roller cam at around 6,000 rpm. It's come that far.

Unless you want one for the shock effect, I'd build a Wedge.

JMO, RR



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High Riser makes a lot more sense than either a TP or a cammer

October 14 2008, 6:20 AM 

There are several problems with building a tunnel port. One is that you have to use a stock intake, there are no aftermarket intakes. Second problem is most of the heads you find are cracked or have had impact damage in the combustion chamber. Its tough to find enough good pieces to make a tunnel port. Finally, a high riser is easier to assemble and makes as much or more power, so why bother with a tunnel port?

You can buy brand new Blue Thunder tunnel port heads that flow real close to what a SOHC flows, and flow more than a tunnel port.



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nm

October 14 2008, 3:04 PM 

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TP vs Cammer

October 14 2008, 4:45 PM 

As far as your original question, I would say from reading the cammer articles on here that the TP is much more user friendly. I cannot really count all the issues I have read about parts & assembling one of the cammer engines on here. Although not answering your question, Royce's reasons for suggesting you build a high riser may be an error if he means factory heads. In factory form, the TP will make more power, all things equal and are no more difficult to assemble, as if anyone could use the word difficult to assemble a wedge FE. Do not overlook a MR for a starting point either. All Ford performance FE heads can be found with battle scars in the chambers, not just TP. They can also be found without issues, some patience is required here. Also, just becasue you can only presently get a factory intake for a TP, they are all great intakes.

If a person had access to a reliable complete cammer kit, it might make it a little easier to get in that game. At present it seems you have to buy the best parts from 4 or 5 different mfg.s, and unless highly modified do not produce like what Barry R. on here can achieve both powerwise and reliably in wedge form. He can set you up with a MR HR type aluminum headed FE that will break every drivetrain piece you presently have in your car, delivered to your door.

Chip

 
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He he he.........Mmmmmm, break every drivetrain piece. nm

October 14 2008, 5:13 PM 

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Ford's answer to the Tunnelport...

October 15 2008, 4:23 AM 

...429/460...built Ford tough


 
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