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faux cj block

October 11 2008 at 10:04 PM

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bill sommers
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Here's what's sketchy to me...

October 12 2008, 6:06 AM 

There would be NO reason to grind the C off the back of block. I didn't see any other grinding on the block either. It's not like someone was deburring the block and got carried away.

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Actually, there is a reason for grinding the "C".

October 12 2008, 6:15 AM 

If you didn't know it was an intentional 428 PI/CJ indicator, it looks like a sloppy pile of slag or a flaw that uselessly adds weight to the block. When building a performance car and trying to shave pounds, this is the type of thing I might do when I didn't know more about the markings. Hey, it's cheaper than buying an aluminum water pump, and fits right into my budget.

It does look like a PI/CJ block to me. It's sad about the semi-loss of the marking, but not a disaster.

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He doesnt show any casting #'s of the block!

October 12 2008, 10:05 AM 

I think its a little strang myself. Thats just me! LOL

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Most FE blocks of 1969-72 lacked CxME markings.

October 12 2008, 10:32 AM 

The CxME markings mostly disappeared from FE blocks around 1969-72.

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I dont think it is and here is why!!!~

October 12 2008, 9:42 AM 

here is some info on the blocks!!!

http://www.428cobrajet.org/id-block.html


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The "C" looks funny compaired to the other "C" that you

October 12 2008, 9:51 AM 

see in the pictures and in real life.

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?????

October 12 2008, 10:21 AM 

I've seen quite a few permutations of the "C" scratch. From tiny to huge in any plane you want to pick. Other than being ground down the block looks real from the limited info available. It has re-enforced mains and the date code is within the CJ production window. There's more to conclude that it is a CJ block than not...


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bill sommers
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Don't the truck blocks have extra webbing too?

October 12 2008, 10:42 AM 

Also Dave S, I see where you were going with grinding = light but it was the only spot I could see that looked ground down.

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All MCC blocks have the extra webbing.

October 12 2008, 11:26 AM 

The new Michigan Casting Center (MCC) started casting FE heads for the 1972 model year and had ramped up capacity to cast FE blocks by 1973. MCC only cast FE/FT blocks with the reinforced webs, and basically all pickup trucks and heavy trucks with FEs and FTs got their blocks from MCC. MCC apparently only case blocks with a 4.050" bore, most were std cylinder (FE) a minority were heavy cylinder (FT). Only some industrial applications (360/390/427/428) were cast at DIF after MCC came on line, and a few of these later 360/390 DIF blocks did not get the reinforced webbing.

Prior to when MCC started casting blocks, reinforced maincap webbing in the FE was not common. MCC blocks and 105 blocks are the same thing. MCC used the 105 to describe the FE/FT, just as DIF and CF used 352 to describe the FE/FT.

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Looks funny because---

October 12 2008, 12:27 PM 

the supposed "C" is on the wrong side of the block from the ones I have observed. It's above the starter in the picture. Maybe my eyes need recalibrating--Joe-JDC.

 
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You are correct, but...

October 12 2008, 2:17 PM 

...it is more common to find them on the drivers side, but the markings are found on either side.

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Looks more like it was "welded"...

October 12 2008, 5:51 PM 

and then ground down to cover up the fact that it is a faked "C" scratching.

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nm

October 13 2008, 5:23 AM 

n/m


    
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