Back when I built the 64 Fairlane I put a set of QA1 coil over shocks on the front....wasn't too difficult...had to make some plates to put up in the shock towers since the diameter of the coil over springs were smaller and think i extended the shocks with an extension to use the stock upper shock mount.
below is the original emails i exchanged with Dave prior to purchasing the shocks...hope this helps...
Larry
----Original Message Follows----
From: Dave Goldie
To: 'Larry'
Subject: RE: Shock specs
Date: Thu, 3 Jul 2003 17:27:34 -0500
Greetings Larry,
Yes I agree that the early fairlanes etc. are a big market.
This maybe something we'll pursue at a later date.
At this time we have too many projects going.
On the gmp part number issue, I'm sure summit/jegs can't catalog all of
their vendors products.
On are "stocker star" series shock the compression and rebound are adjusted
simultaneously.
Counterclockwise is the softest setting, As you dial clockwise the shock
gets firmer and firmer.
As far as rear shocks, The best way to determine the proper part number is
the measure the "shock ride height" (while sitting at rest) We can then
figure out the shock for your application.
As I mentioned earlier I run a early ford and would like to improve its
suspension also so I'm thinking like you!!!
I can refer you to one of dealers if you like.
Can I mail you a catalog?
Regards, Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry [
larrygh@hotmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 6:14 PM
To: Dave Goldie
Subject: RE: Shock specs
Dave,
As Dad use to day, It doesn't cost anyting to ask. Laffing. Just say I
wanted to market them myself. What would be the minimum quanity I would have
to buy to get a price break? What would the price of one kit be to test it
on my car?
I agree that the late model Mustang market ir probably a lot larger than the
Fairlanes or early Mustang market but it sure would be nice if someone did
make specialty items for the earlier cars. I honestly believe the early
Fairlanes (62-67) Falcons (60-69) and Mustangs (65-70) are making a big come
back as far as street and street/strip cars. A lot bigger market than some
might believe.
I didn't see any reference to the GMP15 kit on your site nor at Summit
Racing. It is the same components as the GMP11 except for the spring rates?
What about the adjustments on the shocks? I realize one knob controls the
adjustments but, dut it control both rebound and compression or just one?
Are the settings stiffer as you go to a higher setting for both (if the knob
controls both rebound and compression)?
It there a shock for the rear? The Mustang from 65-73 will work on the rear
of the Fairlanes. It is a tad longer than the original shocks.
Thanks Dave,
Larry Holman
----Original Message Follows----
From: Dave Goldie
To: 'Larry'
Subject: RE: Shock specs
Date: Wed, 2 Jul 2003 17:49:45 -0500
Larry,
The car looks great!
Keep in mind that the gmp11 spring rate is for a heavier car like 3600-3800
lbs. I would guess your t-bolt is around 3200-3300 lbs. What do you think? A
gmp15 may be a better choice?
Because the market (62-65 fairlanes) is smaller that lets say 79 & up
mustang we (QA1) probably wont pursue the market.
Maybe you can market it yourself?
Keep in touch, Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry [
larrygh@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 7:13 PM
To: Dave Goldie
Subject: RE: Shock specs
Dave,
I appreciate the information and how fast you were able to provide it to me.
What I am building is a TBOlt clone from the 64 Fairlane 500. I have a 501
(429/460) and a C4 with a 9" out back. I have converted the from drum brakes
to the Granada brakes. I used both the inner and outer tierods for a Granada
by reaming the inner holes to fit the Granada size/taper. There are some
pictures located here of the car as it is today with a couple whne I bought
it.
http://groups.msn.com/64Fairlane/64fairlane.msnw
Right now, the 6 cylinder springs aren't quite strong enough even with
aluminum heads and intake on the motor. Do you feel the spring rate of the
GMP11 kit would be adequate? What is the chance of being a test car for this
package? As you well know, there is a lot of interest in the 62-65 Fairlanes
these days. Even a rusty body is going for 2k now days.
Thanks,
Larry Holman
----Original Message Follows----
From: Dave Goldie
To: "'larrygh@hotmail.com'"
Subject: RE: Shock specs
Date: Tue, 1 Jul 2003 17:39:46 -0500
Larry,
On your fairlane-
I think its possible to install our gmp kit in your fairlane,
I know the shock & spring are similar
Hear are the dimensions-
Shock- 9" compressed & 14" extended
This shock has a stud top and a t-bar lower mount
Spring- lower 2 1/2" I'd. - 3 1/2" o.d
Spring- upper 4.100"
Spring height 11"
Spring rate on a gmp11 is 365/465
Spring rate on a gmp15 is 250/350
The lower t bar is 3" long
Bolt spacing should be 2 1/2"
I run a early ford product also and am thinking of trying this same set-up.
Hope this info helps, Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Amy Farley
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 9:27 AM
To: Dave Goldie
Subject: FW: Shcok specs
-----Original Message-----
From: Larry [
larrygh@hotmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 9:27 AM
To: Amy Farley
Subject: Shcok specs
I am trying to find out some specifics about one of your products. The HAL
Pro Coil System 1 part number GMP11 appears that I could possibly work on
the 62-65 Ford Fairlane. The shocks that the Fairlane use are simimilar
design with a stud on top and an eyelet on the bottom with the bar for
bolting to the control arm. The GM shock for the Camaro is about the same
length also. The only problem, if you could call it that is the diameter of
the coil spring on the Fairlane. It is quite a bit larger in diameter than
the Mustang's or Camaro's and might shift around in the upper pocket it not
shimmed.
What I would like to knowfor the GMP11 is the following:
The diameter of the upper portion of the spring.
The spring rate.
The length of the shock (extended and compressed).
The distance between the holes on the lower mount bar.
Thanks
Larry Holman
