Proof that you can clone a clone... The Scat and Eagle were originally cloned from high end H beams like Carillo or Crower. The RPM (CAT is fake Scat, Hawk is fake Eagle) stuff was cloned from Scat and Eagle. No telling whether good or bad - but at least Scat and Eagle have employes that can answer questions and handle issues in a professional manner. Scat makes their own billet cranks as well - putting them a solid leg up on the other importers - - at least they know the definition of straight and round.